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Explain how the country that does roof-knocks[1], phone calls[2], and has literally driven its own people out of Gaza[3] in an attempt for peace is attempting to exterminate Palestinians. Learn what words mean before using them.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roof_knocking [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/16/world/middleeast/gaza-inv... [3] https://www.britannica.com/event/Israels-disengagement-from-...
Even the ICJ ordered Israel to take steps to prevent any acts of genocide in Gaza. Do they also don’t know the definition of the word?
Do you not know what "preventing" or "committing" mean either?
Do you believe that if there’s no suspicion that acts of Genocide are being committed by the IDF the court could have emitted such ruling?
I’m not trying to fight in here. You don’t need to be condescending this is not reddit my friend.
Hamas explicitly calls for the destruction of Israel and Jews. Nobody has any doubts around what they would do if they had military supremacy.
The ICJ won’t order them to not commit acts of genocide because they aren’t the object of South Africa’s complaint. (I also don’t believe they fall under ICJ jurisdiction, being a non-state actor.)
Hamas has always been pretty open about their intent for genocide[1]. The ICJ had a specific case brought by a specific country on specific charges against Israel. The ICJ ruled against them.
Israel is in the middle of a bloody war in an urban environment filled with civilians. Of course Israel should follow the rules of war and try to limit civilian casualties, which is what the preventing acts of genocide was about.
[1] https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2023/10/ha...
If Israel wanted to systematically murder civilians there would be a lot more dead.
What you are seeing is the result of a terrorist organization hiding among civilians (human shields) while waging a war dressed as civilians (a war crime).
Their capability to kill more does not imply that they would use it or there could not be systematic murder if they don’t use the full firepower. What I see is not just Hamas hiding among civilians (this is true and this is a war crime), but also what you conveniently ignore: systematic disregard of human life by Israel and ignorance of the duty to protect innocent lives. Some token actions to show for the press (all those „phone calls“) do not qualify as such.
What Israel should have done but did not: evacuate the entire population of Gaza to its own territory, ensure protection of human rights, guarantee access to food, healthcare and education.
Which legal term will be used to qualify Israel actions is less important than stopping this nightmare now and approaching the strategic goals differently.
But maybe i'm wrong? I posted this[1], let's see what happens.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39622270
Edit: as expected, it was flagged, which I am not complaining about. I don't want divisive political stories on HN.
My point is that when the occasional political story makes it through to the front page, it almost always has a specific political bent.
Also, "flagged" is users, not moderators. Maybe you were just imprecise in what you said?
.. Then bombing their innocent families homes is bad.
We should talk about bad things paid for by our taxes and supported by us indirectly.
Discussion on Reddit+HN shutdown/down voted by organized Zionist groups. Also bad.
Most likely because of the current events and the indiscriminate and out of proportion reaction by Israel towards Gazans. Was just reading some news today that Israel approved more Israeli settlements in West Bank. It seems that this conflict will only end when Israel will have killed/deported all Palestinians. Now how come only bad news are coming from Israel? Is there anything else interesting happening in Israel to take steam away from this conflict? They do have a tech scene with startups and all that. I've read some stuff like that on HN but nothing interesting or out of the ordinary is happening in that area at the moment...
What other main themes do you see in the other upvoted stories that worry you.
Is it possible that there are fewer stories about the Hamas atrocities because there are fewer and there isn't much to discuss? I think they are unquestionably evil and should be imprisoned or killed. And that is an absolute belief that doesn't waver even if I also think Israel are doing a bad job of
But
Israel is commiting genocidal acts that are illegal according to International law. They are starving a population of almost 2 million, collective punishment and indiscriminately killing families.
Sorry it bothers you when you see fellow HN Humans act on compassion for other Humans and spread awareness about this. By your post history I get the feeling you'd rather see it swept under the rug and discussion silenced. Israel has a professional well funded misinformation arm. PSA.
A telephone recording of the IDF murdering a family while they were in a car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXKcsAJDDBs
False? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39435324
Either HN is politics free or it is not. As heavily moderated as it is, it is either neutral or it is not.
> Israel is commiting genocidal acts that are illegal according to International law.
If you read my other comments, you know words have meaning. Genocide is very specific. There are multiple countries delivering aid into Gaza, which is wild since Israel is apparently trying to starve them. I wonder if Israel knows about the 100s of tons of food going through the Rafa border every day. Weird that Israel would miss that.
> collective punishment and indiscriminately killing families
Indiscriminately killing families looks like shooting rockets you can't control at a civilian cities, which is a war crime. This is what Hamas has been doing since the start of the war.
Living in a war zone generally means people die. War is bad. Having an army fighting without uniforms (a war crime) among a densely populated civilian city is really bad. Any collateral damage is the fault of the terrorist group that started the war and is still holding civilian hostages (also a war crime).