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"AI can’t replace [adult] performers, and people who say that are misunderstanding what performers do"

I disagree. You are just watching it on a screen. If it looks realistic enough and you can generate anything you desire, it will put the adult industry out of business.

There are already countless numbers of TikTok influencers that are AI generated and men continue to send them messages, watch videos/pictures as if they were real. This is only the very beginning stages of this revolution.

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Porn exists in literally every medium human beings have ever used. Sculpture, paintings, photography, phone calls, audio clips, drawings, animations, text, video games, 8mm film, digital video.

If there exists a way to transmit information from one human to another, it has been used for porn.

AI can replace porn stars in exactly the same way that drawn or animated porn does.

Conspirators of Pleasure by Jan Švankmajer enters the conversation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspirators_of_Pleasure

Can't upvote more. Very bizarre cult classic. Probably hard to find though.

for a moment, I've read porn stars as physically stars (which transmit information if you do research)...though there was idk an ai that link stars to do porn-astrology? Or that detect gas clouds that have a porn-compatible shape?

sometimes, a second is long enough to have weird ideas ahahah

The person who said this is also the managing director of an adult performer management agency, so of course they're gonna think that. Whether or not it is true is irrelevant, they were gonna say that regardless.

I doubt it.

For some people, at least, the fantasy won’t be complete without the knowledge that real people actually did/are doing whatever act it is that floats their personal boat.

Once it gets past the uncanny valley, how would you even know?

It won't happen overnight, but I think this is a one-way street. It already started on Instagram, it'll expand next to short-form video, and, with time, full movies. The curation and direction will still be human-led (or at least influenced), but characters and execution will be heavily AI-based.

And I'm not talking about porn only. I bet in the next 2-5 years we'll be watching lonelygirl15[1] season 2, made by AI. [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonelygirl15

Hosting sites will simply advertise AI-generated porn as real people. Or the videos will go through a chain of transfers that give the sites plausible deniability for the false advertising.

AI-generated stuff will outcompete human-generated stuff, because it's cheaper to make an infinitely customizable. If someone wants a perfect body and face doing acrobatic sex in high def, AI can do that, and better than humans can. If someone wants realistic, amateurish girl-next-door stuff, AI can do that too, and every bit as much better than humans can the unrealistic stuff.

It will also be no problem making a video look like it was shot on a camcorder in 1996.

That is what still blows my mind about Midjourney images. Not just that it can do photo realism but photo realism as if it was shot on a specific type of film.

In ten years no one will care about the difference because years will have passed by then with people not knowing what was real vs AI.

AI is exposing a fascinating dichotomy, between those who consider art uninteresting without the context of human creation and intention behind it, and those who take art solely as its surface without caring about its context or subtext.

I think the history of art, particularly after the invention of photography, suggests that the context is all-important.

I suspect context is also more important to pornography than some here are prepared to give credit for.

This is a great conversation to essentially send up fireworks in a philosophy of art class.

Some of the animated stuff is way better than some of the real stuff could ever be, but I'm not sure that it can replace human performers totally, at least not yet.

Still need the voice acting at least sometimes.

Crucial advances to consumer adoption of tech have had porn leasing the way. Certainly advances have been leveraged by the porn market quickly. This one should be interesting.

The betamax/VHS thing isn't really true by the way. Yes, betamax didn't have porn, but if VHS was never popular it wouldn't have either beyond very small productions. Porn goes to where the users are, because that's where they will pay for it.

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