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What word? They never said they'd open iMessage. FaceTime is what they intended (or at least Jobs announced the intent) to open, and then that got caught up in a patent dispute.

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I remember them saying releasing iMessage as an open standard.

That was FaceTime, and it was because it was a peer-to-peer protocol. Then Apple was sued over a patent and had to implement a more normal design, where it pays for and runs the servers. Apple didn't want to run the servers for Android people to talk to each other.

Can you point to a source for that outside your memory?

They’re confusing it with FaceTime: https://youtu.be/JOxf9tEXEKQ

I figured that was the case. I just wanted one of these folks that keep claiming it to cough up some evidence. It's a tired thing. There are lots of things to criticize Apple (and most companies) for, at least pick something that isn't imaginary.

I guess. But I swear I remember it was about iMessage. oh well, my bad.

No, they could have shipped a product on android, or they could have used secure RCS, or several other things.

FaceTime is not really true either. This was a convenient mistruth. There were several way to remedy that situation.

Also your misremembering iMessage there was no such issue.

You wrote:

> Yes but that would have meant giving up sales in exchange for actually backing up their words.

What word did they not back up with respect to iMessage? When did they ever say they'd open it up?

FaceTime is definitely true. I've used it.

Google could have continued to support XMPP. If wishes were knishes doggies would eat.

It's not Apple's fault that the carriers/RCS/Google don't know how to make messaging work. RCS sucks, it pales in comparison to anything but SMS.

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