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Great! Google is now participating in the AI race to zero with Meta, as predicted that $0 free AI models would eventually catch up against cloud-based ones.

You would not want to be in the middle of this as there is no moat around this at all. Not even OpenAI.

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If meta keeps spending tens of millions of dollars each year to release free AI models it might seem like there is no moat, but under normal circumstances wouldn't the cost to develop a free model be considered a moat?

> If meta keeps spending tens of millions of dollars each year to release free AI models it might seem like there is no moat,

As well as the point being that Meta (and Google) is removing the 'moat' from OpenAI and other cloud-only based models.

> but under normal circumstances wouldn't the cost to develop a free model be considered a moat?

Yes. Those that can afford to spend tens of millions of dollars to train free models can do so and have a moat to reduce the moats of cloud-based models.

LLM is the dumb pipe but so far ChatGPT is the most successful generative AI product.

It remains to be seen. OpenAI’s models are barely leading Gemini Ultra now, but as chat product it is still miles ahead of the Gemini interface.

The main problem of Gemini 1.5 is that you cannot access it at all as a user :|

About 5 months until we see widespread local LLMs, thanks to Apple.

Apple needs to be known as an AI leader first.

Why?

Absolutely this.

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