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Comment by endisneigh | Hacker News Reader

Precisely. Stop supporting iOS and watch their attitude change.

Fact is these companies whine but don’t pull their apps.

it is wishful thinking, if you pull spotify people will use another app on iOS... the way forward is alternative app sotres, the web as an app store etc... competition

more exciting is visionOS, I hope Netflix and co. NEVER make native apps and force Apple to support web browser based solutions

Because their hands are pretty much tied. That's called monopoly position.

Apple doesn’t have a monopoly position by any base measure. What it has is a monopoly on is high income and wealthy users, and these are the most valuable users for all the companies complaining. They want to have their cake and eat it too.

The majority of people in the world use Android not Apple. The majority of the people in the world are also poor and not good marketing targets. These two groups have a Venn diagram that’s nearly a perfect circle.

Yes, but EU trade committee members are also in that Venn diagram somewhere ;)

It’s not a monopoly position by any legal (or really even useful) definition. In the EU they are 24% or so of phone shipments… This is more a “we want money from those users because they’re mostly rich” situations…

I agree that they should make it more of a luxury item in the EU and avoid all of this monopoly talk. If Apple were Bugatti we wouldn't be talking about it.

> If Apple were Bugatti we wouldn't be talking about it.

Yeah, because only 0.001% of people would own one.

Bugatti is orders of magnitude more luxury than Apple, if you look at ownership percentage; also there are many car brands versus very few OS brands; some Samsung flipphones are more expensive and in some ways more luxurious than iPhones; the comparison is silly.

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