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I don't know who's all directly or indirectly involved-responsible: it's a system of corruption where many different parties, bad actors, are aligning for a common goal - where there is a synergy with the line they are toeing.

Do you think CO2 is an issue? If yes, do you think it's a problem that China's CO2 emissions are skyrocketing, whereas the Western countries have been following an ideology fuelled by climate alarmism-fear mongering?

What are the consequences in your mind, of China being able to increase how much cheap energy they are able to use because they're not constrained by CO2-related policy, whereas the West's energy costs are increasing due to CO2-related policy? How does that positively or negatively effect China and the West?

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Interestingly, China's CO2 emissions seem to have stopped skyrocketing - they are set to stabilize this year, and they are currently undergoing a massive growth in manufacturing solar capacity, and as all PV that's currently being manufactured gets installed, their CO2 emissions are expected to significantly decrease already within 2-3 years.

It looks like we have passed the tipping point where switch to renewables happens not because of policy constraints but simply because it's cheaper now.

Where are you seeing the data showing that? E.g. what's your unbiased source?

China didn't draft the West's policies. If the West openly signals its own weaknesses, that is not China's problem. Globalism destroys cultures and ultimately statehood; China understands that, but the West is still firmly in denial. Who can blame China for not wanting to enter a suicide pact?

You open with what's called a straw man argument - and then you proceed to avoid my questions.

What benefits or harms, if any, are there to China for their CO2/climate policy, and what benefits or harms, if any, are there to the West for our CO2/climate policy?

The issue is deeper than you realize or will allude to.

CSIS in Canada, for example, has stated that Canada is a very high target for the CCP - and it's quite clear there is influenced, regulatory capture, between US politicians and the CCP as well - most recently obviously evidenced by Xi's visit to San Francisco; not merely him visiting but all factors related to it.

The above is common knowledge for anyone not indoctrinated into sources of controlled narratives, indoctrinated into propaganda, where actual truthful narratives and logic will be dismissed as "conspiracy theories" etc; mob-suppression tactics as part of the censorship-suppression-narrative control apparatus.

I am however curious what sources, where did you get that understanding that you shared here? Was it from friends/family, colleagues, from newspapers or news channels, etc? If so where do you live?

I don't disagree with you. China clearly takes advantage of asymmetries, and will gain more power as a result. I just don't agree with the idea that it wouldn't happen to the West if China didn't exist.

I didn't try to argue that point but in reality the most likely culprits of interfering aiding in regulatory capture for bad policies to exist in the world's #1 global power will be those who want to knock them down, who would benefit the most by doing so.

Sure, so what do you think should be done?

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