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Are you comparing to legacy java applications? Haven't written xml in soon a decade in spring boot.

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What do you define as "Legacy?"

I groan every time I come across a Maven project, which AFAIK isn't quite yet "legacy."

What about dependecy management, testing, building, and all of the other non-java-code bits? Gradle only goes so far in my limited experience.

The non-Java parts of Java development are what repeatedly get me to choose Go, Ruby, Python, TypeScript/node.js, etc. The tooling is magnitudes easier to use.

Genuinely curious! Thx.

(edit: typo)

Not who you are replying to but I would define legacy as any project that is doing spring di and wiring the project together with XML (excluding Pom for maven building), rather than annotations or raw Java code. Or anyone still deploying to an application server.

But the project configuration has nothing to do with the web framework. You can use Javalin with Maven (and therefore XML), too. And you can use Spring without any XML by configuring the project with Gradle's Kotlin DSL. Modern Java development is not what it was 20 years ago.

Go to most Spring Boot pages or examples, XML is in your face. "legacy"? Modern examples still push the xml injection bs.

This isn't factual, Spring and Boot have been 100% annotation configurable for almost a decade. The Spring documentation I read has zero XML.

No, they don't. There is some xml in getting dependencies through maven, perhaps. But that's not really a huge issue.

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