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https://skiff.com/data-migration

I’m really upset about this, I was about to go all in on Skiff after being burnt by ProtonMail.

Glad I didn’t. Feel really bad for those who did.

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Sorry, what's the news on Proton?

Four people mentioned proton in this thread without any indication of what happened lol

I can give you one bad experience example from a couple years back. Signed up to Protonmail to test out how well it works when you try to use it anonymously, paid for a year via crypto, then at some point stopped using it.

When I came back to it later, and my subscription had expired, instead of downgrading my account to the free version, they wouldn't allow me to access any of my emails until I renewed my account for another year.

I have proton and remember reading that as well. Paid accounts have additional features (aliases, extra addresses) that will be disabled. The reasoning is to prevent them from being reused by maliciously. Iirc, the conditions were clearly spelled out, same as the fact that mail is encrypted and can only be recovered by the user.

Proton is perfectly fine and as secure as email gets. I would think there is some sort of a FUD campaign going on against them, if I didn’t believe that people are dumb enough to endlessly spout bullshit on topics they know nothing about without external motivation.

I've noticed that here as well, specifically with Proton. Some sort of cultural quirk I suppose. I'll keep using their service, until I see some more tangible criticism on their security. I've had positive experiences overall. Yes the extra security makes some things harder, like searching. That is a fair tradeoff for me.

Only real complaint I have is that Proton Drive is web-only. No supported API, either. We desperately need a Linux CLI and/or sync tool.

Edit: I meant a Linux tool. There are windows/mac/ios/android apps. Updated my post.

Also mostly positive experiences, and indeed extra security makes some things harder.

I think you don't hear about the 'silent majority' as much on the internet versus the small minority that's frustrated about something and complains about it.

Proton is simply the best service available at the moment if you value privacy above best usability.

Having said that, there are some limitations that need solving, for example; - can't increase text size in emails (iOS app.) such a basic feature... (you can only pinch to zoom which doesn't work on a small screen.) Some emails are nearly impossible to read. - searching is terrible (it's much much better in the web client, you can even search mail contents there.) - can't get notifications for specific email threads / contacts

For now, i'm happy to pay a company that invests in my privacy, and thereby support future improvements.

Thank you for sharing your feedback! We're working on improving the search as well as other features in our mobile apps, so keep an eye on our channels for updates!

Proton accidentally all the emails.

[sorry]

Are you suggesting they had a data loss? Or is this a quip?

...hilarious dude.

I too was THIS close to going all-in on Skiff last week, leaving Outlook.com for more privacy, but contact sync with phone was a major annoyance. Thankfully in hindsight.

I literally just migrated from Proton yesterday. Oh well, Tuta now i guess...

Was it an aspect of Proton that made you switch? Seeing it get mentioned negatively all over this comment section is making me a little concerned.

eh not really, for me it was the fact it took forever to implement some of the features. I also don't use the address much or any of their other features so was looking for a cheaper solution.

FYI I didn't log into my tuta account for a while and they deleted it completely. No way I can recover the data and personal connections I made using it.

Also Discord was like "yeah you may have your Discord credentials, but we need you to check your email before you can log in again anyway." So I lost my Discord account, too.

But I started using this new thing called Skiff and . . . Oh.

Their policy states that free accounts will be deleted if not active for 6 months.

had the same thing happen to me. never going back to tuta.

Me too and I used my tuta email address as my email for bitwarden. If I had forgotten my password then good night. Back when I created an account they didnt have a popup telling you about 6 month deletions, my email was just gone some day.

I would check out Mailfence. Best alternative to PM IMO. https://blog.mailfence.com/how-to-migrate-your-skiff-account...

I will be switching over to Tuta. Their new subscriptions let you setup unlimited aliases if you are using a custom domain. So, I'll be able to keep all my same email addresses and still have strong encryption.

Where did you go then?

yeah but im glad they atleast let you export as markdown instead of just notion, at least i can use obsidian now

yeah man, me too. thoroughly disappointed

> We’re extremely excited to accelerate our mission by joining forces with Notion’s world-class team. We sincerely hope that the Skiff community will join us for this next stage of our journey.

Yet another entry for https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/

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