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Can we try it somewhere? I feel tempted to buy one, try it and probably return it if what I read about temperature, FoV and battery life turns out to be true. Is that ok, or does anyone think that is not an ethical thing to do?

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Apple's policy specifically states that you have a 14 day return policy if you are not satisfied with your product. I think if you genuinely think that, if the product reaches some realistic expectation of yours, you'd happily continue to own it and fully pay for it, then it is morally ok to buy it knowing that if it doesn't you'll return it. But if you are squarely in the "I can absolutely not afford this but it would be fun to play with it for free on their dime for a couple weeks", then I'd argue that it is morally very questionable. But, having said that, I can assure you their pricing and sales model has built in those considerations as well, so there's that perspective, too.

Thank you. However, on thinking about it some more I do think that a little bit of dishonesty is warranted since Apple is being dishonest by not painting the full picture and leaving the external battery and cable out of view in most of their advertising, for instance.

So my rule would be: if Apple's advertising would make you buy it even though the reviews and HN comments would not make you buy it, then you can still buy it.

"I can absolutely not afford this but it would be fun to play with it for free on their dime for a couple weeks"

I'll check if Apple's stock decreases after I return it. Something tells me I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

1. If you are on the fence about features, never buy first gen of ANYTHING.

2. Buy the Quest 3 and use it. You can do largely the same stuff, its just going to have lower quality (but still very usable). If you love it enough, sell it and buy the Vision when it gets an update.

In the Bay Area, appointments are booked for a week. If you want to buy without an appointment, you can return within 14 days as you said. But if you need prescription lenses, those take a while to arrive, and may not be returnable in any event (IDK).

You can schedule a demo at the Apple Store

Thanks. I'm worried though that a short demo will not give a good impression of issues like temperature and weight.

It won't. At the store I had no qualms about comfort, but of course taking it home I started to see what many of the reviewers were saying. I think the demo experience will very nicely showcase the major selling points of the device, and quite honestly the only way to really get at the rough edges is to spend considerable more time with it than they'd allow you to do.

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