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Polychlorinated Biphenyls, Agent Orange, 2,3,7,8-TCDD, aspartame, patented GM crops and now glyphosate the list goes on. Monsanto (now Bayer) is really living up to the name of "evil corporation".

https://dioxindorms.com/content/chronology.html

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/s41271-018-0146-8

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/feb/24/monsanto...

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Wait, what, aspartame? You tried to slip that one in, didn't you.

It's been classed as an IARC Group 2B suspected carcinogen, this is new research (2023).

https://www.who.int/news/item/14-07-2023-aspartame-hazard-an...

https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/statement/2023/06/widely-u...

This is a category that includes pickles and cell phones. The standards for this category is if some study exists somewhere suggested that, in some quantity, an item might be carcinogenic, possibly only with certain animals. The studies do not require follow-ups or repeatability. It's the lowest standard that the IARC uses.

But you just threw that in with Agent Orange. I declare this a canonical example of someone with an axe to grind.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8227014/

The linked page doesn't appear to contradict the parent?

I knew it! The evil corporate overloads have been trying to kill us all of just for profit by selling delicious but cancerous pickles!

The word "suspected" does not appear on the report you linked. Rather it says it is a "possible" carcinogenic. Moreover

> The committee therefore reaffirmed that it is safe for a person to consume within this limit per day. For example, with a can of diet soft drink containing 200 or 300 mg of aspartame, an adult weighing 70kg would need to consume more than 9–14 cans per day to exceed the acceptable daily intake, assuming no other intake from other food sources.

While I do think that is an unreasonable amount for a normal person to consume, I've also met a person who would easily hit that number. Most of us should be safe though.

aspartame is one of the most studied substances in human history. It's fine, it's safe. It's not healthy per se unless it helps you kick the sugar habit, but it's a neutral substance.

To your endocrine system, it's neutral?

Yeah this is just a tip of an iceberg.

Read about Bayer's predecessors legacy during II WW of "medical" experimentation on humans in concentration camps, enslavement, tortures, supplying gas to mass killings and more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben#World_War_II_and_the...

Did jury add anything to the large body of evidence that roundup is basically safe, with only flimsy studies showing effect more flimsy than your average psychology paper, despite being one of the most scrutinized chemicals in existence, and despite being used on massive scale?

Agreed on by multiple large scientific bodies, including the EPA.

Nah, they just reacted to a sob story. No different than NIMBYs playing up the "grandma vs evil developers", politicians pulling a "just think of the children", etc. Utterly disgusting.

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