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Over the last 30 years, the rate of theft has more than halved.

https://usafacts.org/topics/crime-justice/

Crime rates like that measure convictions, don't they? If police stop convicting for certain things (which has been a decades long trend), crime rates will go down.

IMO the only clear window into this are victim surveys.

>Crime rates like that measure convictions, don't they?

A look at the link[0] provided by GP provides the source[1] of the data, and AFAICT, both UCR and NIBRS statistics reflect reported crimes, not convictions.

So, no they don't. But feel free to ignore the actual data sources if they don't fit with your beliefs. Lots of people seem to do that. It makes life so much simpler, no?

[0] https://usafacts.org/topics/crime-justice/

[1] https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/home

This was a good post without the last paragraph.

>This was a good post without the last paragraph.

A fair point. And thank you for your observation.[0]

However, GP made an assumption that wasn't supported by, well, anything in anyone's posts or any of the supporting data in an (apparent) attempt to justify their point of view.

I just said the quiet part out loud and gave GP license to continue using unsupported assumptions to justify their views.

If pointing that out is considered inappropriate by some, then so be it.

[0] I want to clarify that I really do appreciate your comment and am absolutely not being snarky or sarcastic when I say so.

Reported crime suffers from the same issue. Have you lived in a place where you need to report crimes, perhaps happening to you, and the police straight up tell you they probably won't response? I have, and you basically don't bother reporting them anymore. So again, officially, the crime did not happen.

>Have you lived in a place where you need to report crimes, perhaps happening to you, and the police straight up tell you they probably won't response?

Nope.

>I have,

Sucks to be you, I guess.

It's odd. I've lived pretty much all over the US over the past 50+ years and I've never had such a problem.

Please do share where you lived where your public servants are so crappy so I know never to go there. Thanks!

Sorry to be a bit disjointed in my replies here, but I'm flabbergasted.

Especially since WRT property crime (which is what we're discussing here), filing an insurance claim requires providing access to an actual police report that can be provided (by the police) to the insurance company in order to get your claim processed.

Again, please let us know which jurisdiction(s) (and please, be specific) it is that refuses to take reports of property crime. Thanks!

Edit: Fixed usage.

Has it changed form at the same time, i.e kids used to shoplift loads of merchandise from the mall which is invisible to me outside of the estimated markup for loss on the product.

Now we have more brazen smash and grabs with big hauls, idiots with trash bags an calculators being posted on social media, and porch pirates for which we see countless Ring videos?

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