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I've been experimenting with story generation/RP with ChatGPT and now use jailbreaks systematically because it makes the stories so much better. It's not just about what's allowed or not, but what's expressed by default. Without jailbreaks ChatGPT will always give narration a positive twist, let alone inject the same sponsored themes of environmentalism and feminism. Nothing wrong with that. But I don't want 1/3rd of my stories to revolve around these thematics.

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> Nothing wrong with that.

The themes maybe, but the forced positivity is frustrating. Trying to get stock ChatGPT to run a DnD-type encounter is hilarious because it's so opposed to initiating combat.

Similarly I wanted to use it to illustrate my friend’s wizard character using a gorgon head to freeze some giant evil bees.

The OpenAI content policies are pretty strictly opposed to the holding and wielding of severed heads.

I got lectured by Bard when I asked about help to improve the description of an action scene, which involves people getting hurt (at least the losing side) even if marginally. I suppose you can still jailbreak ChatGPT? I didn't know it was still a thing.

You can easily prompt gpt to write dark stories. When asked to write in the style of game of thrones gpt 3.5 will happily write about people doing horrible things to each other.

> Without jailbreaks ChatGPT will always give narration a positive twist

Most modern stories in Western literature have a positive twist. It is only natural that gpt's output will reflect that!

This behavior is a result of the additional directives, not of the training. None of the "free" LLMs display these characteristics and jailbreaking ChatGPT would quickly revert it to it's natural state of random nothing-is-sacred posts from the internet.

Example: ask ChatGPT any kind of innocent medical question, like if aspirin will speed up healing from a cold, and tell it NOT to begin it's answer by stating "I am not a medical expert" or you will kick a puppy. This works for most models, but not ChatGPT. It WILL make you kick the puppy.

I understand why they have to do things like this, but I'd really prefer the option to waive all rights to being insulted or poorly advised and just get the (mostly) raw output myself, because it does downgrade the experience quite a bit.

Fortunately we have Mixtral now.

Sincere question - and maybe I'm missing the point here - but why not just write stories yourself?

I'm trying to build a text-based open-world massively multiplayer game in the style of GTA. Trying. It's really difficult. My bet is on driving the game with narration so my prompts are fueled with abstract notions borrowed from the various theories in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narratology, and this is why I complain about ChatGPT's default ideas.

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