My 11th gen Intel Framework is my only PC and has been a great machine. I use it for dev, gaming, and general computing. Integrated Intel graphics goes surprisingly far if you run games at 720p - Skyrim, Dishonered, the Mass Effects, and more recently Battlebit all run well. I'd imagine the more recent Ryzens would be much better.

I want the 16 for more screen real-estate and better gaming; I've had family notice my laptop and make positive comments, so I may pass it on when I eventually upgrade.

On a related note, I saw someone else with a Framework laptop at a coffee shop the other day here in Alaska - super cool! First time I've seen another Framework user :)