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Team Fortress 2: Source 2 is down as well.

https://discord.com/channels/902532397877297242/902540593606...

To my knowledge, this is the first time Valve has done anything like this. They are legendary for letting gan projects go wild.

I have a personal fear that this will be an extremely sad page in Valve's history if this is truly indicative of the future they are headed towards, unless there is some bizzare legal IP requirement involved (and yes, I know about the protection tangles required to maintain copyright!)

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According to the above tweet it seems like they are taking it down because of Nintendo libraries, not because they want to? Presumably Nintendo reached out and asked valve to take down the project? This doesn't seem like Valve initiated action unless I am misunderstanding something.

It’s not the first time Valve are doing something similar without any action from Nintendo. Nintendo is notorious for its lawsuits and Valve is not taking any chances. Earlier they took down Dolphin emulator from Steam, because they were worried they’d get sued by Nintendo, despite Nintendo hasn’t contacted Valve on that topic in the first place. While it seems wrong, it might have saved Dolphin team from any troubles with Nintendo legal team beforehand, since they were shipping Nintendo’s encryption keys with the emulator.

TF2: Source 2 takedown was particularly surprising to me. I speculated in another thread that it could be related to it being made in s&box which Facepunch are likely to eventually profit from.

If you could make comprehensive clone of a game that depends on a paid engine from another studio, I can see how that could be seen as a threat to Valve IP.

Wait, it wasn't in Source 2? What a weird name

Edit: s&box is a Source 2 follow up for Garry's Mod

Could you share a screenshot of that messave or an invite to that server?

Apologies, I didn't realize it didn't allow for an invite, it's an open server: https://discord.com/invite/tfs2

https://nitter.net/TeamFortressS2/status/1745157812563378649

Looks sketchy, they mistyped S&box and I don't know to what extent s&box has changed but they have a source2 license. If I were Amper Software I'd get in touch with Valve before proceeding with the DMCA request.

The enforcement requirement is for Trademarks, not Copyright.

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