also it violates longstanding security measures against malicious prank unsubscribes; it means that if you forward an email list message to someone else, they can unsubscribe you without your consent as a prank
Hey, if this reduces the number of people who successfully unsubscribe, don't blame me, I'm just over here trying to make sure things are secure!
Don't want these marketing emails? Unsubscribe here.
Oh, you need to login in order to do that.
No, that's the wrong password for your account. Forgot password?
Hm, we don't see your account existing. Probably a different email address?
... sigh... sent a couple of emails to the data protection contact listed, but after 5 years, I still get the emails and I occasionally try to login again.
So I just automatically mark it as spam every time.
But probably because they're a small provider and don't have the resources; this is the largest telecommunications provider in Germany.
"You can’t [...] make the recipient take any step other than sending a reply email or visiting a single page on an Internet website as a condition for honoring an opt-out request."
also, according to that page, the can-spam act only applies to 'any electronic mail message the primary purpose of which is the commercial advertisement or promotion of a commercial product or service', not to mailing lists
I have not seen such an unsubscribe flow in more than a decade, at this point. I assume you're thinking of mailman or some other similar solution that was already dated two decades ago, let alone now.
it is understandable that people who are not familiar with a cultural practice might seek to marginalize it, but that does not make it right
i don't really care about making life easier for people who send email advertisements (a cultural practice i am sadly all too familiar with) but i think discussion email lists are important and valuable, even if you personally don't participate in them
Surely that is a bug in the email client that forwarded the email. It should have replaced the headers, including List-Unsubscribe, with its own.
That looks to be what's happened in the emails I receive. The one exception would be if someone forwarded an email as an attachment, but in practice almost no one does that.
In GMail I believe senders that have this implemented now have a big blue UNSUBSCRIBE button next to their email address at the top of the message.
Neither appear if the headers aren't there.
- adding a new member to the list requires a vote of approval of the existing members. bob apparently unsubscribed last week and now he wants to resubscribe. can we take a vote on whether to let him back in or not?
- when someone who isn't a member of the list attempts to post to it, we add their domain to the spam blacklist and report them to vipul's razor. hmm, weird that bob.example.com is on our spam blacklist, how could that happen?
- bob, i'm afraid i have to write you up for having violated the new company policy i posted to the policy-announce-important list last week. well, if you didn't read it, that's your problem