Is that what you meant by "the problem wasn't the software?" Because the pilots should have been trained to unplug the computer to stop it from crashing the plane?
Is that what you meant by "the problem wasn't the software?" Because the pilots should have been trained to unplug the computer to stop it from crashing the plane?
They introduced MCAS in the aircraft for to balance by software a hardware issue, a big design negligent issue which can lead to stalling. It is beyond to trim an aircraft, and because of this there is a big difference in the scale of the values that the algorithm manages from a trimming.
It is not my field, but I think it is not a simple factor, and that it should not be put this over the Pilots like if it were a normal aircraft that received a simple update. Every pilot flying that plane should have been warned that it was not a classic plane with a classic update.
If this type of behaviour by aircraft manufacturers becomes the norm, costs over safety, we as passengers will suffer it, as other passengers unfortunately suffered it, while they blame the Pilots. In addition that nowadays the China's aircraft manufacturing industry wants to enter global market. Some days ago I read they want permission (homologations approvals) for to enter in the European Union.
PS: They also cut costs retiring backup sensors, delegating responsibility for a vital system due the MCAS to the buyer as if it was an unimportant feature; disaster was the order of the day. And the spending cuts were not limited to that, as we have seen in recent days.
> They introduced MCAS in the aircraft for to balance by software a hardware issue, a big design negligent issue which can lead to stalling.
> Every pilot flying that plane should have been warned that it was not a classic plane with a classic update.
I was mean,
> They introduced MCAS to use software to attempt to balance an aerodynamically unbalanced aircraft with a high stall tendency, in order to avoid designing a new aircraft.
> Any pilot flying that aircraft should have been warned that it was a plane that didn't want to fly aerodynamically, with software forcing it to fly without backed redundancy. It was not mere trimming.
In the 737 MAX, the only way to disable auto-trim also disables powered trim (the thumb buttons). As grand parent says, at a certain step in the sequence it was not physically possible for a pilot to trim the plain back to stability manually. It simply can't be done.
In the 737 ng, there was a button to do just that. That would have been useful.
And that's even ignoring the fact that all symptoms were very different from those present in a runaway trim situation as described in the manual and learned by the pilots.
The user of the parent comment is remarking about time.
The aircraft can be certified without MCAS?
By what I read, MCAS is there for to avoid entering into an aerodynamic stall when the aircraft is approaching a high angle of attack, due it's using larger motors for what classical 737 was designed for. It's balancing an unbalanced aircraft using software to repeatedly adjust the horizontal stabilizer.
It is not my field, but I'm not even sure if it should be called to trim, it sounds like a euphemism for what's going on.
Afaic, the fault apportionment was Boeing documentation > airlines >> pilots > Boeing technical design.
Edit: Also, how does the fault lie with the airlines? Boeing didn’t document the existence of MCAS in the flight manual or training materials.
>> Because the pilots should have been trained to unplug the computer to stop it from crashing the plane?
Yes.
The fault lies with the airlines because I don't for a second believe they didn't put pressure on Boeing to get the MAX certified without mandating retraining.
And then once that was done, didn't dig into the details too hard about what changes were made.
I have a low tolerance for 'I set up all the conditions and incentives to encourage you to break the law... but you should take all the blame when it explodes.'
At some point, the customer has to take some responsibility for what they asked for.
If you listen to podcasts, these two episodes of Causality are excellent:
https://engineered.network/causality/episode-33-737-max/
https://engineered.network/causality/episode-50-737-max-ethi...
Back when I flew regularly before covid, I was tempted to create a bunch of these and hand them out to the flight crew for the flights I flew on.