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Concerned? No, I just don't see any use for it. At least not at that price. Too expensive for a gimmick.

At least I didn't buy a PSVR :)

Also, as someone who wears glasses:

1. I trust my regular optometrist a lot more than Apple-made lenses.

2. Do I remember right that you can't swap prescription lenses, so you'd have to get one for each family member? Holy 2500 * N!

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Vision correction is provided by Zeiss branded magnetic inserts.

1. Your optometrist will be providing the prescription. Zeiss will be providing the optics. You can trust them both.

2. They're expensive, but they pop in and out.

https://www.zeiss.com/vision-care/en/highlights/home.html

I share your concern over it's usefulness. I should take my Index back out sometime.

Unfortunately the lenses are not expensive, which likely means that they are mass produced. If you have an uncommon prescription, you probably can't get the right lenses.

Great point.

> Apple says that "not all prescriptions are supported."

This could mean anything from a limit on physical thickness to not supporting something like prism correction. It'd be nice if they were more specific. There are already some good VR headset prescription lens makers I'm sure are gearing up for the Vision Pro--I wonder if Apple is going to go after third parties making inserts.

Yay. I have enough astigmatism that the docs told me contacts is a no go and can't use off the shelf lenses. But those are Zeiss!

You can swap the lenses, which are made by Zeiss, not apple

I trust Apple-made lenses a lot more than any strip-mall optician.

Apple lenses will be worse than the best but far better than the average.

Zeiss is making them, not Apple

Precisely. Zeiss (almost always) makes very good lenses, which is why Apple selected them.

But I've had opticians do a poor job of getting me the prescription I need, and so the Zeiss lenses were way off.

I bet Apple will have this dialed in from the get-go.

> I trust Apple-made lenses a lot more than any strip-mall optician.

Who said anything about strip mall opticians?

At least they let you swap the lenses. Will they do the unthinkable and let the iPad be multiuser as well?

There are lot more strip mall opticians than there are expert craftspeople of lenses. Apple's lenses will be fine... probably much better than fine.

You make it sound like opticians hand-hew lenses from blocks of glass with various levels of craftsmanship. AFAICT, they take measurements and send the prescriptions off to be made by specialist manufacturer. Glasses are regulated medical devices with real oversight, not some rinky-dink industry that Apple can waltz in and be the best manufacturer by default.

Recently my optician kept getting me the wrong (Zeiss) lenses, i.e. I could see much worse with the new lenses than I could with my 3-year-old lenses.

I got excuses like: "oh, these are better for computer work but worse for distance". Great... why are my old lenses more clear for both computer work and distance?

I went home with the new lenses and tried them for a night and a day. Unusable.

I went back and the optician's second attempt failed too. Now for computer work they were better and for distance they were still worse.

Attempt #3 was a match for my old lenses. Neither better nor worse. Mission accomplished? $500 well spent.

I'm sure in all 3 cases Zeiss made impeccable lenses. But it comes down to the optician's interpretation of the prescription I brought in (from a laser eye center's 8-machine exam I got the previous week) and their clinical examination of my eyes.

I expect that whatever Apple's Standard Operating Procedure will be for supplying the right lenses to people, it'll be mostly superior to your average optician.

> I expect that whatever Apple's Standard Operating Procedure will be for supplying the right lenses to people, it'll be mostly superior to your average optician.

I love that your anecdote has determined that most opticians will be worse at their job than an Apple Genius who might get two-three hours training on fitting the headset.

Apple is a 2.8 trillion dollar company because they're good at process. They don't expect or rely on the Apple Genius to get the fitting right. That would be their biggest ever blunder.

Getting the fitting right is built into their products from years earlier in the design process.

The Apple Genius is perhaps the last or second-last step in an SOP that results in their customers not angrily returning hundreds of thousands of headsets and swearing off the entire ecosystem.

Now sometimes Apple get things woefully wrong (e.g. butterfly keyboards, antenna gate) and refuse to admit defeat for years.

But on average, across years and dozens of product variations, they have a good hit/miss ratio.

But yet a poor experience at an optician for you leads you to the claim that "strip mall opticians" are generally poor at fitting glasses. But somehow we don't have mass revolt and complaints about optical care.

My story was illustrative, not exhaustive.

This doesn't make sense.

Most strip mall opticians don't grind the glass themselves. Measurements are taken and sent to a specialist facility.

On the other hand, how much training does the Apple Genius fitting your headset receive?

Do we even know this is multi-user? I remember that being a big question hit don’t know if it was ever answered.

This reminds me of Om's gushing review of these that he thinks will put movie theaters out of business because now the whole family "will sit on the couch together, each watching the same movie on their Vision Pros".

Oh good, one more step towards Gargoyles (a subculture of people choosing to remain continuously connected to the Metaverse by wearing portable terminals, goggles and other equipment; they are nicknamed "gargoyles" due to their grotesque appearance - from Snow Crash).

Yeah, PSVR was kind of a waste. Was kind of fun for a few hours I guess.

I got one cheap from a co-worker, the only game that i liked was TES5, played hundreds hours, but its been boxed for around two years now.

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