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Are these organized by some large state-run company, or is it a bunch of independent businesses exploiting the lack of enforcement?

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I don't know anything about this particular issue, but generally from what I recall, Chinese companies are effectively the CCP by their own admission. They have full control.

The crux is: People require protein, daily. Feeding a population of 1.5 billion people requires quite a a lot of protein. Nothing leads more directly to civil unrest than hunger and famine.

That doesn't justify China for going all the way across the ocean to illegally fish on Chilean/Peruvian/Ecuador waters

There aren't many large scale things happening in China without the state behind it and that's also the case here. The vessels are heavily subsidied.

Seems like it'd be hard for anyone to say with confidence given that we're only just now learning of the scale of their existence

An operation of this scale likely involves tens of thousands of people. Those people have families, are paid salaries, have grievances, etc.

In fact, bet a few of them are here on HN right now and could probably give us a first hand account while on the high seas trying to browse the only bit of the internet that still works with a 32kbps high latency internet connection...

Nah, they just use their Starlink connections

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One account of out tens of thousands

This is definitely not the first I’ve heard of it.

What’s the difference? China is responsible either way

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