Comment by defrost | Hacker News Reader

Comment by defrost | Hacker News Reader

Quick Question: What's the semantic difference between:

a) "Man says he was kicked off X for Y"

and

b) "Man kicked off X for Y"

Because a) is the form of the actual article headline.

Interestingly this appears to be the same Bindley Sangster with a ASAF background, aviation connections and official postions in both Georgia and Jamaica:

    The grandson of the late Sir Donald Sangster, Jamaica’s second prime minister, Sangster said he views the HIA role as adhering to his grandfather’s ideals of service to Jamaica.

    A veteran of the United State Air Force and a member of the Advisory Committee of the Aviation Institute of Maintenance, he also works to identify opportunities for students within the aviation industry and to create specialised training programmes.

https://our.today/honorary-investment-advisor-appointed-for-...

All of which adds some weight to his claim.

In A, the publisher is repeating the claim without validation or substantiation that the passenger was actually kicked of and reason Y is asserted by the passenger. Basically A is hearsay

In B, the publisher is stating as factual that the passenger was indeed kicked off (as opposed to getting off for any other reason) and that it was in fact for reason Y.

B puts the weight of the writer/publisher behind the claim with a higher bar for verification of events

Also, I think the passenger is trying to be helpful but surely he knows that he can’t manage the infotainment system as a passenger. There has to be some detail or interaction not reported here

> but surely he knows that he can’t manage the infotainment system as a passenger.

If he's spent a lot of time in Jamaica he may have a "well somebody needs to fix this" attitude - which can also come from having a military background.

I live in a large state (3x size of Texas) with a small population (bit over 2 million) and people here pitch in in to fix stuff fairly often (bridges out, floods, fires, push trains aside to free trapped legs).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YORxs9E2Ex0

What's missing here is the nature of the interaction, was it amiable, why did Delta staff circle round on him when he started writing a complaint, why was he complaining in any case (was it because his help was refused, or because he was complaining it was broken).

EDIT: In my earlier comment s/ASAF/USAF/ <doh>

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