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Please don't post unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments. We're trying for something else here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: your comment downthread (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38825159) was much better and would have been fine if you'd posted that instead (minus the first sentence I guess).

While there are trade offs do you actually think there aren’t good reasons for emergency notification systems? You might be happy to do without personally but that won’t be everyone’s informed choice. And location sharing between individuals has advantages as well at least on a temporary basis.

Comments like yours are the sort of low effort kneejerk reaction that pollute so many discussions. Just stop.

Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse.

Personal attacks are particularly not ok, and we've had to ask you not to do that more than once before.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

That is poor argument.

You can make privacy respecting emergency notification system which uses data only for that service or even if you share it only for individuals as well.

But manufacturers want all this data and sell it too.

Yes manufacturers should have far less leeway to use/sell the data for many purposes even if that increases consumer monetary costs. Even open to legislation along those lines. But that doesn’t really have a bearing on this case.

Well don't get me wrong, this is Hacker News, you'd be hard pressed to find people who don't love tech here. I agree with your main idea, but the lack of informed consent just bothers me. The mere fact that most people don't realize their cars could (not saying that is the norm, at least not just yet), track their every move by default, sending their data to an unknown server to do unknown things and you have to opt out of that is just frightening. GM can't even do a simple entertainment center that doesn't lag out like a $20 tablet, so what are they making with my live location and how well are they taking care of it?

> You might be happy to do without personally but that won’t be everyone’s informed choice.

In fact this is nobody's choice since everybody is forced this shit down their throat with no way to opt out.

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