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More relevant to the ongoing attack:

> “The Yemeni position is clear,” Abdullah Ben Amer, a high-ranking Houthi official in a department that is part of the group’s defense ministry, told The New York Times. The Houthi escalation in the Red Sea will stop, he said, when “the Israeli war on the people of Gaza stops.”

Houthis stopping to fire Iranian missiles does not in fact solve any of these problems, I'm afraid.

Houthi != Yemeni

Houthi : Yemen :: Hamas : Palestine

Words are one thing, but actions are another. Their demands are basically to end an ongoing ethnic cleansing campaign.

Sounds like something taken from Team America: World Police or Command & Conquer: Generals.

Except this is real life and not a movie. They’re not cartoon villains. They’re actual real life villains.

The Houthi movement really strengthened after the US invasion of Iraq, so yeah the real villains who destabilized the shit out of the Middle East?

What a novel geopolitical theory reaching across Arabian peninsula. I suppose that once the US deposed someone in conflict with the Iranians, they could spend money on groups like the Houthis.

It must be some kind of Pizza effect, where they assimilated all the silly depictions of radical groups from parodies. Life imitating art?

Because we're talking about real life, what exactly do you mean, and what does it matter?

The concept is almost never true - and a strong signal of subjectibe bias - and also not useful for international relations or for any conflict. They are acting according to their interests, using the means they have.

Wonder why this is getting downvoted. It’s just a statement of fact.

I can see how the slogans of the Houthis make them a less than sympathetic set of missileers. For example, it might be awkward for a person supportive of the Palestinian cause to be in goal alignment with a well funded group stating uncloseted hatred of Jews.

No more awkward than supporters of Israel having to cope with Israeli ministers suggesting nuking Gaza, or having to deal with the ACLU defending Nazis in court.

Every cause, even (sometimes especially) the righteous ones, has shitty people attached to it.

That’s not the same thing at all. Hamas and the like have an official, publicly available creed which explicitly calls for the extermination of Jews. You sure you want to put that on the same level as one minister suggesting something stupid? By that logic, you absolutely must put all of congress in one group because trump suggested something similar.

> You sure you want to put that on the same level as one minister suggesting something stupid?

Yes, I think a government cabinet minister saying "nuke Gaza" is quite scary.

For every one willing to say it out loud, there's usually more leaving it unsaid but supporting the sentiment.

Sure. Do you have a better theory for the downvotes and flag then?

Sure; it's just kinda off-topic. Tangential.

The organizational mission statement is off-topic?

Here? Yes.

We don’t quote Facebook’s motto in every article about them, either.

I for one was unfamiliar with the Houthi org’s credo and was rather shocked how antisemitic it sounds.

People here don’t quote the Facebook motto often, to be sure, but “move fast and break things” is quoted often as is the old Google one “don’t be evil.”

It doesn’t make sense that quoting the mission statement isn’t helpful information when there isn’t much about the Houthis posted here.

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