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There are maybe no effects that we know about right now. Different people have different opinions on what their risk tolerance is, so there could be people that may outright disagree with your statement.

And there were even fewer such effects when the vaccines have rolled out back in 2020 with emergency approval, but without being used “in production” beforehand.

Now we know much more about the mRNA platform, but I still can’t exclude the possibility entirely for me. So I will take my chances and focus much more on quality of food, on staying fit, reducing stress etc. etc.

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You should do the healthy things to avoid cancer in the first place, but once you are diagnosed with a cancer with high mortality rate, it's a whole different calculation in terms of risks vs benefits compared to Covid-19.

Many cancers are caused by random chance, not factors you can do something about. sure, don't smoke and all, but odds are still high cancer gets you.

Exactly. Cancer grows naturally in all of us, every day.

Indeed. My view on vaccines is that they are not a cure but act as prevention agents.

There's multiple vaccines that can also work after you've been exposed to a pathogen. In many such cases risks vs benefits will change by the event.

For example rabies vaccines is not given to everyone, however after you get rabies you will be given that vaccine.

Vaccine in this case is a less harmful training tool to prepare you for the more harmful pathogen that may still be reaching its peak strength.

You can think of vaccines as a training tool. In some cases it might provide you with a response that can completely throw the pathogen out, in other cases it will just be able to fight it better.

>For example rabies vaccines is not given to everyone

If you could spread something as bad as rabies by sneezing. You would see actual mandatory vaccinations, not the mild nudge people have been complaining about the last three years.

This is a treatment

>You should do the healthy things to avoid cancer in the first place

What are those?

There's a certain set of healthy recommendations, but to clarify none of them will absolve the risk completely.

>There's a certain set of healthy recommendations

But they are all very general and very vague. Eat right. Exercise. Avoiding smoking and alcohol, unless it's red wine. Be wealthy Drink Coffee.

Sorry just when I see people suggesting healthy lifestyle under this and other articles for things like heart disease mRNA treatments, it generally betrays that they view being sick as a personal failing.

1 in 2 people will contract cancer according to the NHS. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/cancer/

The biggest factor with cancer is age. https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-...

Nothing can absolve the risk completely, it’s all about probabilities. And even if the odds are for something, there are outliers and the genes.

Can you completely exclude that there are some awful long-term consequences of Covid-19 we do not know about and that could be prevented by vaccine?

No, I can’t. Nobody can at this stage unfortunately.

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