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Because not tipping someone that makes their living off of tips is a jerk move.

Interesting that you think not tipping is the jerk move, in my mind the employer not paying them living wage is the real jerk move.

No, expecting someone to pay you when you do not clearly tell them how much they owe you is a jerk move.

Simultaneously, laws that allow employers to pay different minimum wages and required extra effort from the employee to get the full minimum wage are also jerk moves.

I dunno, it’s just from noblesse oblige. If you don’t want to be generous to the people feeding you, then don’t tip.

What about the person making the food? They arguably do more work than the person who takes the order (if at all, with how you scan a QR code these days) and they bring you the food. The tips are almost always for the wait staff and doesn’t go to the kitchen.

Imagine being angry at a customer for an employment pay problem.

Oh, nevermind, it's the restaurant world, where owners figured out how to blame someone else other than themselves for slaver-level pay.

The cooks aren't being paid server wages, so you don't have to tip them.

And no, servers do a lot lot more. Have you actually worked any of these jobs? I did both.

There's a reason it's so damn cold in a lot of restaurants, serving is really hard work.

Kitchen work is kinda fun, serving is not, but you can make good money if you're good, due to tips.

I haven’t worked at a restaurant but I have worked at dine-in movie theaters, and have friends who have worked in the kitchen and waited tables. There are some angry people but majority of the time they set tables, take orders, bring the food, close out checks. I don’t know if that’s more work or less work than the kitchen, to me it’s about the same. I’ve always believed they should be paid in the similar ballpark as each other and eliminate tips.

The restaurants being cold is news to me, majority of the places I’m familiar with felt like room temperature, except for drafts when the door is opened.

It’s a job, you get paid for doing your job.

The waiters are not feeding me. I have zero evidence that the money I give as a tip goes to the people making the food.

Shaming people who don’t tip is a jerk move

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