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Genuinely asking… what has worked in getting hostages beyond the temporary peace deal? I saw Israel had already accidentally shot their own hostages who managed to escape Hamas. In a war like that, how can Israel even free the hostages by this dropping bombs method, if the hostages get out they will be shot by their own military?

> I saw Israel had already accidentally shot their own hostages who managed to escape Hamas.

For me, the most tragic aspect is that those three hostages where gunned down while shirtless, in civilian pants, waving white flags, because they were mistaken for three shirtless Palestinian civilians, trying to surrender waving white flags. The execution wouldn't be justified in either case, and is damning evidence of the treatment Israeli forces give Palestinian civilians.

Just making the deal compelling enough is what seemed to work. Israel is giving 3 militants back to Hamas for every 1 civilian hostage.

The one thing that has worked is bombing and overwhelming them into temporary ceasefire solder exchange.

The hostages themselves have said they were most afraid of being killed by the IDF's bombing campaign.

Apparently it’s a military doctrine? The hannibal directive, or something like that.

Something like that indeed. More specifically, the Dahiya doctrine[0] from what I can tell:

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine

"It's already cost 7,000+ children's lives"

Please. They aren't bombing hostage locations to free hostages. The effort to eliminate Hamas has cost 7000+ children lives. That number won't stop growing when hostages are freed.

Can we stop bringing up the 200 hostages in response to the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians? It's a rounding error by comparison and a sad reminder that in 2023, to some, some lives are worth 100 times more than others.

"to some, some lives are worth 100 times more than others."

I feel like that's true for most people/all most everyone ? You've got the thought experiment of: How many strangers lives would you trade for a family members well being ?

And on a national scale that's called racism. But fine then - admit you're just another amoral tribalist taking care of your own, and save everyone else the time of trying to determine if you're actually interested in peace or justice.

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