https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34460722 (Jan 2023)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33209948 (Oct 2022)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32922335 (Sept 2022)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31010834 (April 2022)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27927198 (July 2021)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27089584 (May 2021)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26857484 (April 2021)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21875867 (Dec 2019)
Everyone with strong feelings on a topic feels like the mods are secretly against their view and moderating in favor of the other side [1]. I think it's because we're all hard-wired to notice the things we dislike and to weight them much more heavily [2].
In this context, it only takes 2 or 3 datapoints (actually, it probably only takes 1) of a moderator scolding a comment that you agree with for you to feel this way (<-- I don't mean you personally, I mean all of us). It's hard not to. But of course the people on the opposite extreme of the topic from you are feeling exactly the same way about the mods—they're just basing it on a different 2 or 3 (or 1) data points.
(Btw, pg has had nothing to do with HN moderation for almost 10 years.)
[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
I don't know what you mean by "openly show how both sides are affected". That's a tricky business. Everyone with strong feelings feels like the mods are biased and few are persuadable otherwise. Most people (with strong feelings) would be satisfied by little less than "promote all the posts I agree with and ban all the commenters I disagree with", though they don't phrase it in those terms, presumably even to themselves. It just works out that way in practice because when strong feelings are involved, all opposing comments tend to feel false and/or trollish and/or abusive.
What I can tell you for sure is that we're moderating all sides of this topic, same as with any divisive topic, when we see the site guidelines being broken, and we do our best to be even-handed about it. That doesn't mean there's no bias (unconscious bias is a thing, and total absence of bias is surely impossible), but it does mean that we work hard and consciously at it, and have many years of practice in doing so.
p.s. when you ask "What makes you flag something as flamewar", I suppose I should clarify that most [flagged] posts have been flagged by users, not moderators. Mods do flag some though.
I'm not too concerned when people disagree about particular moderation calls, since that's inevitable, especially in borderline cases. I am more concerned that people understand the underlying principles and try to abide by them.
At this point I've been entrenched enough in discussion long enough to appreciate how this place is moderated by dang etc
I don't know if pg is still involved in moderation decisions on HN. He's widely considered anti-Israel, by most Israeli techies at least, but I don't think this necessarily means anything about HN. (And although I don't know pg personally, I'm willing to give quite a bit of benefit of the doubt to him, and I'd bet that his personal integrity would keep him out of directly intervening in moderating HN about this topic.)