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Comment by borg_ | Hacker News Reader

Obviously you didn't read (the first sentence of) the article, I applaud your courage in commenting regardless.

The 1044km claim is from a livestream where the CEO of the company drove the car from Shanghai to Xiamen until there's 3% left in the battery. All this amid a cold wave too.

> The temperature during the test was between -2 °C and 12 °C (28 – 54 °F). The coldest time was at the beginning of the test, as it was early morning in Shanghai. The average cabin temperature was 20 °C (68 °F). The carload was about 190 kg (two adults, lifestream equipment, and other items).

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Yeah CEOs are well known for their unbiased claims about their own companies, much more so than standards bodies (however flawed)

How can you bias a livestream where you drive the number of kilometers that you later claim that you can drive with the car? You can at worst commit outright fraud, but bias?

Hypermiling is a known method for extending the range. That is why standardized tests are important so you can match the standardized number to your driving.

A livestream is hard to fake but what tires were they using? What was the climate control setting? What speed? Did they have a tail wind?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermiling

  The maximum speed was caped to 90 km/hour (56 miles/hour), and the energy consumption was 13.2 kWh/100 km. The average speed for the trip was 83.9 km/h.

so there it goes, driven at an average speed of 53 mph hypermilling! For comparison, Tesla M3 achieved 975km:

  In May 2018, Sean Mitchell and Erik Strait set a hypermiling record for the Tesla Model 3 by driving 606.2 miles on a single charge after 32 hours of driving.

For comparison, the Tesla Model 3 was travelling at an average of 18.94 mph

Sure, the M3 also has 1/3 less battery capacity too.

They give you most of that information in the article.

Well, Tesla did exactly that, they faked a full autopilot demo:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-autopilot-staged-engineer...

And they clearly can use a rigged car, cherrypick conditions etc. If it even were live.

So fraud, not bias

Sure but it depends on the location. I guess in China fraud committed by a company with strong party connections (as all companies have) is not illegal. Otherwise half the alibaba sellers would be arrested :) :)

But I generally don't like to throw legal terms around unless it's been proven in court.

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