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After full scale invasion support of Bandera increased because he was vocal proponent of independent Ukraine, not because he was a nazi collaborator.

It is an argument in bad faith to cite him as a marker of support for 'neo-nazism' in Ukraine, doubly so during time when adversary is coming and is very open about stripping you of your national identity, language and history.

Well, we have sort of the same debate in germany, where people want to praise Hitler, because he build the Autobahn and because he ended mass unemployment. But it is still Hitler we are talking about and consensus is, the holocaust weights stronger - and Bandera was literally involved in it all, so for me the same metric should apply.

And about Asow - what I can say for certain is, that we have some very hardcore Neonazis here in town - and they are literally friends and strongly connected with the Azow people - that's kind of all I have to know about them. But I do know more - and it is not good. Those guys aren't fighting for democracy.

You are clearly not arguing in good faith. Comparing Bandera to Hitler is utterly ridiculous, and I am Jewish myself, so I'm not exactly standing in line to protect UPA/Bandera.

Regarding Azov, I am native Russian speaker with many friends from Ukraine, there are legitimately orgs/groups that you can call out for being open nazis, but if all you can do is comment on Azov in 2023 then you are simply delusional or misled by Russian propaganda, I'm sorry.

"Comparing Bandera to Hitler is utterly ridiculous"

I was comparing the line of argument.

"but if all you can do is comment on Azov in 2023"

And I can and did a bit more, but there is probably no point in further debating it.

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