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Tesla sold their investors and customers on "full self driving", not "self driving where you must always have your hands on the wheel ready to take over".

Customers are willing to tolerate the latter right now because they believe the former is still in development.

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Do you think it isn't?

I'm not here to argue that the overly enthusiastic timetables weren't cringe. They definitely were. I'm just here because there seems to be consensus that FSD is doomed and it doesn't remotely seem that way to me.

Of course it's in development, but if I'm right that ML cannot solve this problem then a lot of that development is wasted.

My point is that in the long run, Tesla cannot solve the ML edge cases by having a human available to take over at a split second notice.

Maybe, but I think that feedback and training data from supervised driving will continue to propel Tesla along the march of 9s until FSD has genuine superhuman performance. Of course, there is only one way to find out. Time will tell.

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