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Even if this bizarre claim were true, that wouldn’t make them “incels”, as they voluntarily chose to use Android.

Desperate men blaming everyone and everything for their own dating shortcomings is nothing new.

No, android is far cheaper. Mostly they are using androids for socioeconomic reasons.

I cited my sources. You claiming it’s bizarre is itself bizarre. Seems that you can’t handle the truth.

Come on there has been a free iPhone model offer from one carrier or another most of the time since iPhones came out.

:| I am not trying to get involved in the “iMessage makes incels” debate, but you’re wrong. Those iPhones aren’t free. You have to sign up for a multi-year contract to get the “free” iPhone and the base monthly price is increased by (iPhoneValue/LengthOfContractInMonths). It’s a loan.

A Moto G 2023 is $100, unlocked. With a competitively-priced prepaid MVNO, it’s $10 a month to maintain the line if using data becomes unaffordable for that month.

I’d love to know where I can get a free iPhone and get the same economics as described above. All I see is iPhones for $x00 with a $60/month/line minimum. Even on MVNOs.

Actually there was just recently a black Friday deal on the iPhone SE 3rd gen (old design, but modern internals) for $99 on Straight Talk. ST isn’t the cheapest MVNO, but I believe they’re only locked to ST for 90 days or so then you can switch to whichever one you want, including $10/mo ones.

> This phenomenon is directly responsible for the rise of Incels in America.

I’d argue that it’s due to social media, not the iPhone. I can believe that a reasonable number of guys being “bubble shamed” into inceldom, but as a driver for a quantifiable and significant number? No way.

MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, etc? For sure.

You hear that incels? Getting a second date is as easy as switching to iPhone!

The study in your first link seems fatally flawed. They should compare photos of Android vs. iPhone users with their phones in the frame vs. photos without phones. It could just be that iPhone users are more likely to be fashionistas, and Android users are more likely to be schlubs. Or that iPhone users are just richer, and wealth is attractive more generally.

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