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> I have absolutely no trust in anything Musk touches.

Yes, HN & Redditors have made their views extremely clear.

Just don't be surprised when the rest of the world disagrees.

I don't think it's a matter of disagreement. Just a combination of a) most people don't follow Musk's shenanigans that closely, and/or b) most people are not that principled about what they buy, and just want a car they think is good.

Or maybe people have different principles than you.

My decisions are based on:

1. Engineering from inside the orgs 2. Treatment of workers in said orgs 3. Treatment of customers 4. Capriciousness of their CEO.

It's not just 1 thing. It's a whole slee of problems that coalesce into something I look at as a massive liability.

So fine, those are your principles. Doesn't change my point at all.

> Just don't be surprised when the rest of the world disagrees

You should buy more TSLA stock. If not, why not? You don’t trust Elon?

Here’s a tip: Tesla is massively underperforming and missing delivery estimates for Q4 2023.

It’s mostly due to the economy, but it’s also true the competition is actually here.

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