Tesla Model Y 2nd in new vehicle registrations in the US, overtaking Toyota RAV4

I’m still waiting for the suspension, road/wind noise, and AUTO WIPERS, to be fixed via software update. Model S Plaid, by the way.

"Better every few months"—yeah right.

If hardware is software locked, this is pretty easy to accomplish.

>> Coming with next month's update - heated seats.

The heating coils were always there.

There's no future for Tesla then

Compared to Lexus, sitting in a Tesla is like sitting in school bus...It feels cheap and uncomfortable...imo...

Surely a million of them on the roads next year?

Yes, HN & Redditors have made their views extremely clear.

Just don't be surprised when the rest of the world disagrees.

The other side of the great-man fallacy is the fallacy of attributing all of the problems with their works to them.

If you look at 1) the near religious following of Tesla enthusiasts for the company's brand, 2) the inherent superiority of electric vehicles over ICE vehicles for the vast majority of everyday use cases, and 3) until very recently no real alternatives, it's not surprising that Tesla was able/willing to cut corners on aspects of quality.

I also would never buy a vehicle from them either. I specifically waited until a good EV alternative to them was available in my price range. The faux-dystopian-bro turn they've taken with the Cybertruck is a cynical play on people's current insecurities, and Musk's recent revealing of his inner thought processes lines up pretty well with my long held impressions of him. I also think it's pretty unwise to have them be the sole domestic provider of manned space-launch.

Despite all that, given their current position most of his companies are acting rationally in their choices. It's up to his competitors or government to put pressure to change the situation. Arguably the government has stepped up in the EV space by providing a lot of incentives.

The situation at Twitter on the other hand does seem to be the most direct reflection of Musk's personality and state of mind. There's very little rational about what he's doing with it (much like his original purchase of it for an inflated price).

Are you saying that because you don't think Musk is trustworthy, others shouldn't be buying these cars?

Read some Blind posts about <insert random tech company name here>.

Have you spent any time in a Lucid or Lightning? Both have had their share of issues with the infotainment and info centers restarting or freezing. And the Hyundais. And the Escalade. There’s a reason vehicle controls systems are not affected by the info display systems.

Reuters..lol.

This is one thing these new generation of "ipad only" cars gets completely wrong. We should be building these interfaces the same way NASA built the mars rover instead of building them like another left-pad nodejs electron app.

The feedback should be immediate without lag like an actual button. I however don't really need it to be tactile.

For the important things there are tactile buttons, the rest works really well in practice.

To the point where I now feel a bit attacked by sea of buttons when I get into a modern non-Tesla.

The buyers who have made the car the best-selling car on Earth obviously couldn't care less about the opinions of virtue signallers.

I assure you that 99.999% of people really don't care about your car. And they care far, far less about whether you support Elon Musk.

Please.

Does driving a Volkswagon mean that you support their founder which in this case was Adolf Hitler of the German Labor front?

It doesn't.

Which is why the majority of drivers do not care about any of that, and only an extreme tiny minority hold that view in the case of both VW and Tesla.

>> That and I really hate the lack of tactile buttons in those cars, and their love for a clearly unsafe "full self driving" solution

The FSD scam is valid criticism of its deceptive advertisement of its false sense of safety, which at least it is an add-on which you don't have to buy it with the care.

Bold considering what Toyota, VW, and Ford have gotten away with over the past few decades. Surely Toyota intentionally hiding faulty brakes is at least on-par with Musk sharing a meme you didn’t agree with. Musk has done more for climate change with the electric revolution than, let’s say, VW intentionally misleading emissions testers with their vehicles.

I don't want to support someone who is a questionable human from a morals/virtue pov, regardless of how "smart" they are.

Enemy centered mindset. You both lose, but he doesn't know you exist.

If we want to play the purity spiral game, we could say anyone who funds gasoline-first car companies is funding critical damage to the environment. (I assume the next step is a StrongTowns (tm) supporter telling us how cars are unnecessary, we need density, then a doomer complaining about how having children is unnecessary carbon emissions, etc...)

I am being facetious here though, I liked the Hyundai EV when I rented it, and disliked the Model X. I wound up getting a used Model 3 as my city driver, and enjoy it very much.

Twenty years ago we would have dreamed of an all-electric superfast luxury all-American best selling practical EV. The model Y is that.

I can't speak for you, but if I asked you twenty years ago if you would have wanted that, my guess is you would have flipped for it. If I told you the price was that the CEO would be an asshole, you'd have shrugged. Obviously I'm projecting and you may have been consistent, but I also think it's possible that we often obsess over unimportant details and take great stuff for granted.

And EVs really are good, so you'll probably get one. And if not Tesla, there's a good chance that you'll be "supporting" the Chinese Communist Party or whatever.

I don't mean this to be rude, but nobody cares that much about your car purchase. People have their own things to think about and are rarely thinking about the reasoning for your purchasing choices.

I saw a good description (on /r/4chan, no less) of you: People who constantly check in on each other to see what the latest things are to embrace/avoid. What a miserable way to live.