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I would disagree that Java has a variety of editors and dev tool sets in use. Of course there are occasional people that branch outside of jet brains, but they are a tiny minority. Most Java projects I have worked on are dependent on IntelliJ.

Given this end the fact that many clojure people come from Java, it does not surprise me at all to see this attitude.

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Interesting. I would have expected "Java devs not using Jet Brains" to vastly outnumber those using it, rather than being a tiny minority.

Trying to estimate their sales, it seems like JetBrains is around $400M/yr in revenue. Looking at their pricing, it seems like $400/user/yr is a fair estimate, which suggests around 1 million paying users for JetBrains. Oracle claims 10M or more Java devs (undoubtedly many of those are dabblers in Java rather than 2000 hours/year users, but JetBrains sells to a lot of non-Java devs as well).

Interesting indeed! My sample definitely skews toward the small company/startup field, although I've worked with some big banks too a those devs were all using IntelliJ.

I worked for a finance company that everyone was using Eclipse, and it was almost impossible to break out of eclipse (except maybe for a new application) because there were custom Eclipse plugins written to even get some applications to compile locally.

Jetbrains took the #1 spot from Eclipse many years ago. The free community edition is fully capable.

And another free IDEA edition — Android Studio — might be even more popular.

I've been doing Java since '97 and have gone through dozens of IDEs and editors over the years -- and never used IntelliJ (because I don't like it).

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