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You should check out Draw Things on macOS. It works well enough for SDXL on 8GiB macOS devices.

Thanks. Yeah I played with your app early on and just fired it up again to see the progress. Frankly I find the interface pretty intimidating but it is cool that you can easily stitch generations together.

Unsolicited UX recs:

- strongly recommend a default model. The list you give is crazy long. It kind of recommends SD 1.5 in the UI text below the picker but has the last one selected by default. Many of them are called the same thing (ironically the name is "Generic" lol).

- have the panel on the left closed by default or show a simplified view that I can expand to an "advanced" view. Consider sorting the left panel controls by how often I would want to edit them (personally I'm not going to touch the model but it is the first thing).

You are doing great work but I wouldn't underestimate the value of simplifying the interface for a first-time user. It seems to have a ton of features but I don't know what I should actually be paying attention to / adjusting.

Is there a business model attached to this or do you have a hypothesis for what one might look like?

Agreed on UX feedback. It accumulated a lot of crufts from the old technologies to the new. This just echos my early feedback that co-iterating UI and the technology is difficult, you'd better pick the side you want to be on and there is only one correct side (and unfortunately, the current app is trying hard to be on both-side).

Are you the developer by any chance? If so, it would be helpful to state it.

I am. I thought this is obvious. My statement is objective. I would go as far as: it is the only app works at 8GiB macOS devices with SDXL-family models.

"You should check out this thing" has a very different implied context than "You should check out this thing I made". The first sounds like a recommendation from an enthusiastic user, not from the the author. Because of this, discovering that you are the author makes your recommendation feel deceptive.

I am sorry if you feel that way. I joined HN when it was a small tight-knit community without much of marketing presence. The "obvious" comment is more like "people know other people" kind of thing. I didn't try to deceive anyone to use the app (and why should I?).

If you feel this is unannounced self-promotion, yes, it is, and can be done better.

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Also, for the "objective" comment, it meant to say "the original comment is still objective", not that you can be objective only by being a developer. Being a developer can obviously bias your opinion.

I think it was obvious. That said, thank you so much for your labor of love! The app is amazing! Any plans for SDXL Turbo support?

Should be in a few days. I asked Stability to clarify whether I can deliver weights through my Cloudflare bucket and whether qualifying as non-commercial is who runs the model, not who delivers the model.

2008, when we both joined, was 15 years ago. In the interim, the userbase has grown. Most people aren't recognizable as the author of an app under discussion, so a simple "Developer here" is appreciated as it was not obvious to me.

Whoa, well let me just say thanks for the awesome app!! it's pretty entertaining to spin this up in situations where I don't have internet (Airplane, subway etc.)

I was also surprised on how well it ran on my iPhone 11 before I replaced it with a 15 pro.

(Let me know if you're looking for some Product Design help/advice, totally happy to contribute pro bono. No worries if not of course!)

How would that be obvious to anyone?

Nice app - but for future reference it is very much not obvious to any native English speaker. "You should check out X" sounds like a random recommendation.

What do you mean it was obvious? Only the developer could make that objective statement?

I've been generating stuff non-stop in Draw Things for a few days, it's very good. Agree with the comments elsewhere about the rather overwhelming UI, and I have only one feature request: let us input the number of images we want to generate - the 100 limit means I keep having to check if it's finished to restart it.

Any plans for SD Turbo? Both base and XL models would be a great fit for a mobile device.

Draw Things is amazing. Great work and thanks for developing it!

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