An 80% charge at 350kW would take under 10.5 minutes even for a semi-large 75kW/h battery*, you'd barely have the time to hit the bathroom and order a fast food meal to consume in the car - and this will gradually become the new baseline, from which you can expect further improvements down the line.
* it would actually take more if you showed up with a completely empty battery - the first 10ish % needs to be slower, to protect the battery - but in reality you would NOT plan to reach a charger with such little range remaining, so it would actually take you quite a bit less. A 15% to 80% charge on a 75kW/h battery at 350kW would take 8m21s.
* 350kW chargers are rare, cars able to take the charge even more. (I have Enyaq, charge is capped around 150kW, never saw it charging faster). The most common charger in the wild is around 50kW
* 100kW+ chargers are insanely expensive. It is cheaper to drive ICE than charge on those.
* Chargers are often broken
* You are assuming that there is nobody in front of you. Good luck getting your 8 minutes with 2 other cars waiting to charge as well.
* 8 minutes is still slower than getting a gas to an ICE
Uh... Where in the world are you seeing this? And what kind of mpg, miles / kWh, $/gallon, and $/kWh are we talking?
Enel X - Charging points in Italy: 0,69€/kWh for AC charging points, 0,89€/kWh for DC charging points up to 150 kW and 0,99€/kWh for DC charging points over 150 kW (HPC)
• Charging points outside Italy: 0,70€/kWh for AC charging points, 0,95€/kWh for DC charging points up to 150kW and 0,99€/kWh for DC charging points above 150kW
Those are just two charging network known for high power chargers on European highways, which I can get top out of my head.
Fortunately legislation is coming to force all of them to take credit/debit cards, and standards like Autocharge will also help.
Battery levels, not hydration or bladder levels, are the limiting factor of EV trips.
Lots of people, including myself, can't do this.
Oh it's so easy and convenient!
You are being short sighted, yeah in ideal conditions, it's OK. But what about.
You're pulling into your home just about on empty, plug it in walk inside, then a get a phone call from your dad who lives 2 hours away "Mom just had a terrible accident, and is in the hospital, were not sure she can make it, get to the hospital as soon as your can!" Now your dumb ass has to sit and panic and stress while you wait for your stupid EV to charge. On top of that now your playing this guessing game, "What is the least amount of charge I need to get to the hospital, what if I underestimate just a bit and run out of charge 10 miles out, then I would be even later than if just let it charged a bit more".
What if you car is low on charge, you go plug in it, then a storm comes ripping through, electricity is out, it's out for days, your fucking stuck, sorry.
I think people are vastly under estimating the "I HAVE TO LEAVE RIGHT THE FUCK NOW" value you have with a combustion engine.
Emergencies happen, electricity goes out, I would happily pay more for a vehicle that didn't have these terrible drawbacks.
God forbid I call a car for this once in a 1000 lifetimes scenario.
And yeah, God forbid you move from something with more flexibility and freedom (a combustion engine), to something with less (an EV).
I don’t wish anyone ever go from more to less freedom and flexibility.
The “derp it’s only 20 min to charge” is a bad argument. You are asking me to go from 2 min or less to 20+ min. That’s a 900% increase and is totally unacceptable.
My EV is on average “fuller” than my diesel was since my commute uses 10% per day and it gets recharged every night, whereas my diesel would wait until 1/6th full at least until a fill up.