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I'll criticize Apple when it's due, but I'm glad the OS isn't filled with absolute trash all over the place on a fresh install. I can't even bring myself to build a new PC for gaming, because whenever I turn on a Windows box I get disgusted by what it's become.

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Well, Windows still has that trick where you can launch some other program as the shell instead of explorer.exe. Perhaps your newly built system should just launch to Steam as the primary OS shell directly ;)

In fact, I'm surprised I didn't do this earlier.

What do you mean? I have a Linux PC and all of my games work very well on it. I’m not an avid gamer though.

You guys seem to ignore that apple is an ads broker itself so no idea what are you on about https://www.wired.com/story/apple-is-an-ad-company-now/

I think they're probably talking about junkware like Candy Crush and Tiktok being pre-installed (or at least preexisting in the start menu)...

Owned iPhone for more than two years now. Haven’t seen a single ad pushed onto me via home, settings or browser.

Owned iPhone for 13 years and I have never seen any ad, except on the web. And even that is partially blocked with some Safari extension.

They definitely put ads for Apple products like iCloud in Settings. They’re just much more restrained and tasteful than MS. And that’s good.

I just noticed “Apple Fitness+ Free for 3 months” in Settings. It’s definitely an ad but less annoying than candy crush.

not visible, but there's a lot of invisible stuff going on in the background.

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