New Outlook is good, both for yourself and 766 third parties
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Sooo don't waste money if you decide to pirate LTSC :)
Wine on linux is really nice these days BTW.
Then they will have the users by their balls. Charge money for every click. Insert ads where they see fit. Dynamically adjust prices to squeeze the max amount of money.
Time for quarterly reports? “Sorry our Excel servers are under ‘heavy load’, Excel now costs 4x the usual hourly rate…”
[1] https://www.techradar.com/news/could-windows-12-become-micro...
"The prize-winning Excel service is in high demand right now. We apologize for any delay this might cause. Do you want to become an 'Excel Prime Plus User' with preferential treatment? Just upgrade your subscription now and increase your productivity!"
Their primary competitor, Apple, chose the route of programmed obsolescence for the hardware bundled to their OS software and also extreme price hikes for a given hardware performance level.
So, I don't know, pick your poison, I guess. I think it's easy to shit on Microsoft, but still most people prefer their shenanigans to Apple ones from what I see, because at least it's a lot easier on the wallet at the end of the day.
As an historical Apple user, I somewhat prefer this behavior because at least I can work around it. You don't have to use Outlook and all of the Windows "ads" can be turned off, especially if you are willing to pay a bit for a "pro" version. On the other hand, good luck working around Apple extortionate pricing on soldered SSD and RAM. Privacy may be valuable, but that's only true if you are rich enough in the end...
Microsoft always ends up looking like the bad guy, but considering how many people depend on them for easy cheap access to computing (including a lot of government/institutions) it could be much worse.
In fact, my point is that if it was Apple, we would be in big trouble we even less money in the bank while they would try to impose even more restrictions on their products to extract even more cash. At this point you realize that some shenanigans with ads are really not that big of a deal...
We use Teams, which handles all the calendar stuff I used to need my mail client to do for me. The only risk seems to be Microsoft silently changing something and Thunderbird being left to figure out what to fix. I no longer need to access proprietary Public Folders, as that functionality has been swallowed up by Sharepoint Online.
I've used Linux at work for the past decade, in spite of it being a Microsoft shop -- some days I would wrestle with HyperV or whatever ricketysticks thing Microsoft bolted on top of HyperV, some other rare days I'd get to play in the terminal all day.
I could tolerate using Windows if I was forced to. But I absolutely love using Linux. Who even needs Outlook specifically these days?
https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nosta...
It's gonna suck when Microsoft finally kills connectivity or login support for the Teams for Linux Electron app lol
Also, my mom preferred Safari but kept Chrome around for installing and opening PWAs. I understand if there's a philosophical reason this won't work for you though :)
"I have power here" versus "you have no power here".
I couldn't. I reinstalled windows on a laptop I was giving away a few months ago and it literally took me 25 minutes to figure out how to install Chrome. Windows refused to download it in Edge, stating it was a security concern, and it was endless googling to find out how to disable this setting, and none of the instructions seemed to work. Several restarts later and toggling a million things, it finally worked, but i'm not even sure specifically what it was.
If I can't install the absolute bare minimum software without issues like this, I cannot tolerate it.
"undefined number"
"not a number"
"floating point overflow"
"the back-end ESS-QEW-ELL server has returned an error"
"missing semicolon or comma on line [1,2,3,4,..... 1231,1232,1233...]""Spell your name"
"F-R-E-D-double-quote-semicolon-D-R-O-P-space-T..."
Maybe we get a merging of Half Life and Portal in a future game, that could be really fun :)
https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/13lo7u6/list_of_n...
Maybe it’s not so important to you that you’d spend the extra money.
Subscription software is my hill to die on.
Open Office, Linux and various other Open tools are becoming a big .
In fact, I'm surprised I didn't do this earlier.
Don't pretend that Apple and quality of computing go hand in hand. They only do if you buy into their mindset wholesale, warts and all.
The bloatware isn't even a blip on the radar for these companies. Everything is about gaining as much control as possible over everything. MS wants to make everything Office related web based so we have no control over our own documents and communication. Apple wants us to use iCloud for our photos and the app store for apps we need so we become dependent. Google dominates with Chromium because they don't want you to access the internet unless you're doing it the way they want.
Apple, Google, and Microsoft would be split into 20 companies each if regulations were working properly.
When you get a iphone, their privacy policy is right there at the beginning, thousands of pages long. "Privacy is a right!" But they still snoop on every little thing you do in their own way. And they have no buttons. Definitely do not have a "Reject All" button. sigh.
No way! That kills of so many long term inboxes I know of. Over a decade of customer conversations in there in some cases. This will kick off a painful set of IT department phone calls and an even more painful migration if needed
Also good riddance: Word, the shitty html editor/viewer.
do iOS and other 3rd party exchange clients have to pay anything to MS?
I've been maintaining one for a few years and have pretty good deliverability. 95% of the time when there's an issue it's Outlook/Hotmail marking me as spam. And no I don't do email marketing or newsletters.
Why google would invent better email sender validation procedures and encryption, if the current system works pretty well for them.
A CRM system has no business sending these out to leads who’ve never consented and are simply imported from Zoominfo or whatever. I’m glad MSFT finally started spam-binning them.
Appointments. Sent to the salesmen.
Our office staff takes phone calls, emails, and website submissions from prospects -- they then have to let a salesman know that someone wants an inspection and estimate. The best and easiest way to do this is by creating an appointment for the salesman best suited for the job which will block off some of their schedule to connect with the prospect and set up an on-site meeting. This also sends an email to the salesman assigned to the new prospect [This is the part where MSFT spam filter tells me to GFY]. We don't send out emails to prospects until they give us their email directly.
If you would've actually read my comment, you would see that you didn't respond to anything I said but just made up your own idea of what I said then talked past me.
The most common law people cite for deletion rights is GDPR but I'm not sure GDPR applies. GDPR's territorial scope is defined in Article 3.
For controllers or processors not "in the Union", which I think is the case for YC, GDPR applies if the processing activities are related to:
"(a) the offering of goods or services, irrespective of whether a payment of the data subject is required, to such data subjects in the Union; or
(b) the monitoring of their behaviour as far as their behaviour takes place within the Union."
People in the Union can make HN accounts and post, but that doesn't mean that YC is offering goods or services to data subjects in the Union. Recital 23 of GDPR elaborates on offering goods or services (edited to split into two paragraphs to make it easier to read):
> In order to determine whether such a controller or processor is offering goods or services to data subjects who are in the Union, it should be ascertained whether it is apparent that the controller or processor envisages offering services to data subjects in one or more Member States in the Union.
> Whereas the mere accessibility of the controller’s, processor’s or an intermediary’s website in the Union, of an email address or of other contact details, or the use of a language generally used in the third country where the controller is established, is insufficient to ascertain such intention, factors such as the use of a language or a currency generally used in one or more Member States with the possibility of ordering goods and services in that other language, or the mentioning of customers or users who are in the Union, may make it apparent that the controller envisages offering goods or services to data subjects in the Union.
I think YC could make a decent case that they do not envisage offering such services to people in the Union.
> I think YC could make a decent case that they do not envisage offering such services to people in the Union.
I very much doubt it. YC has an explicit list of European-based companies in their portfolio; they have posted job ads on HN for positions that were based exclusively in EU countries, and continue to do so as far as I can tell. PG is on the record talking about using HN from the UK (no longer part of the EU, but it was at the time).
Or they just want to have an archive for some background monetization scheme, anything is possible!
Bucking against the many IETF RFCs on SMTP is hard to do.
I think I ran into it five times so far, three of which had a party count similarly around 700, and two above 2000.
The counts maybe include the third parties to which the third parties relay data etc.
I haven't checked if they've done it for some upcoming legal requirement or out of their own good heart (the legal requirement would in all likelihood be an nth draft of the ever "upcoming" ePrivacy regulation).
Fairly eye-opening in any case.
Makes me want to switch away - why do they do this?
If Outlook is your company's email provider... the third parties are the concern of your IT department.
If you're not hit by one of those two conditions... why are you using Outlook? This feels like unwarranted outrage bait.
Bonus point if you get your own domain. Bitwarden and others allow creation of individual users on the fly on your domain, while a catchall on the email server collects this.
Still your concern given whatever information is shared about you and your job to the 766 third parties.
I'm also thinking of 2FA things many corporations mandate, requiring the use of a phone number, application or both, without them handing you a work phone. Under no circumstances will I give my personal phone number to Google or Microsoft because I don't want them to link my work and personal stuff. Right now, I'm locked out of a corporate account at Google due to such refusal.
Is this a cookie notice (required by EU e-privacy directive), or is this a sub processors notice (required by GDPR)?
Both would be insane. I don't see how they could possibly use that many vendors. Must also include all Microsoft subsidiaries?