>Before the pandemic, there was bad stuff (in particular poop all over all the sidewalks) but there was relatively more good stuff because white collar workers commuted in on the weekdays and (at least) bought lunch. Post-pandemic, it’s all gone, so crime etc now has outsized leverage.

And yet there are people in denial about just how dead downtown SF is. This /r/sanfrancisco post is unintentionally hilarious. <https://np.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/11z2cz5/americ...> I think they think that "People leaving SF" = "Trump wins", or something.