There is no amount of "mental health" that can protect you against targeted bullying of that magnitude. I really wish we had a universe simulator so you could see how miserably you would fail to survive an environment like that.
There is no amount of "mental health" that can protect you against targeted bullying of that magnitude. I really wish we had a universe simulator so you could see how miserably you would fail to survive an environment like that.
The answer isn't to make nudity illegal. We're going to end up blinding ourselves on purpose to avoid seeing our own nudity if we go down your road.
1. Complete loss of privacy and control over your image.
2. Shame and embarrassment, especially in high school where every boy will look at you different and reduce you to a sexual object.
3. Public humiliation -- those photos can and do lead to ridicule and bullying. You're the one who is naked while everyone else is clothed.
4. Destroys self-esteem -- high school is already terrible in this regard but it's hard to have any kind of self worth when a sex object and some porn is how your classmates know you.
5. Takes away your agency -- its doesn't matter if the photos aren't real, they can make you do anything in those photos and to a 3rd party viewer there's no difference.
6. It's degrading -- they're not gonna be tasteful nudes and pretending as such is naive. And it doesn't matter if you don't find the acts degrading when everyone else does.
It's not making nudity illegal, it's making and distributing sexually explicit images of a person whiteout their consent illegal.
The answer isn't to make getting an 'A' illegal.
The answer is to challenge the bullying and to not to allow it to gain power.
Don't hate the players (bully, bullied), hate the game.
You're conflating 'nudity' in general, and non-consensual generated nude images, but like, these things are just different, and are treated differently. There isn't a misunderstanding that nudity in, say, art, is different from nudity in porn, or that there's difference between consensual and nonconsensual depictions, or whether something involves made-up characters and real people. So why insist on conflating these two just for the sake of 'throwing hands' like problems there can't be solved, and that some specific, more narrow set of problems can't have a solution on it's own, when it can.
I was trying to convey a more extreme holistic situation where there simply isn't a consequence of someone sharing a nude picture of someone, people just shrugging and saying "so what? It's perfectly normal to be naked".
By breaking the underlying system of shame and embarrassment of someone being nude, there isn't anything to gain from it after that. Then there isn't a reason to even make it illegal anymore.
(Other than just not wanting your person to be pictured at all, just basic privacy, no need to put different value to different parts of the body)
>If a naked picture of you is causing you to choose suicide
really great response. almost as good as 'if rape is causing you to choose suicide'. 'maybe we need to fix how society views rape'. nonconsensual nude imagery and pornography is much closer to rape than not.
> I really wish we had a universe simulator so you could see how miserably you would fail to survive an environment like that.
So go take up your objections with the guy I was replying to instead of coming at me and moving the goalposts.
I agree that kids these days are weak and coddled and not emotionally resilient enough. And this kind of safetyism is the exact reason why.
Like yeah I'm not at all shocked the HN everyman mid 30s white dude wouldn't really care about his nudes being spread around. The point of the simulator comment was I wish you could truly experience how different life is for women.
The hypothetical risk of AI-generated deepfake nudes is, in principle, no different from what you could do with Photoshop even when I was a teenager. It’s easier to send the fake nudes to everybody these days, but I seriously doubt anybody would have been genuinely fooled and it would reflect more on whoever made and disseminated the fakes.
I don’t pretend to have the answer, but admitting that there’s a problem in the first place is a good step forward.