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Can you explain exactly what you’re “all for”? Because of the handful of interpretations of your post, several are downright psychotic.

A well-intended interpretation is: the parent comment advocates for a society where there is substantial language diversity even within smaller geographic regions. This makes sense from many perspectives, because forcing people to speak the same language no matter the context is not only hostile to immigrants but also to native minorities. E.g., in the North of Scandinavia (where I reside), many people don't like that the language that has to be spoken is traditionally (less now than historically) dictated by the South.

> This makes sense from many perspectives, because forcing people to speak the same language no matter the context is not only hostile to immigrants but also to native minorities.

in terms of non-native languages, practically this sort of policy quickly becomes a nightmare in terms of ensuring equitable access to public services

either these people become disadvantaged in terms of dealing with the state, or small fortunes have to be spent hiring substantial amounts of interpreters for every possible situation (which is a significant cost for e.g. elementary schools)

totally off topic but I love that "the South" in the context of your comment is hot exotic places like Stockholm and Helsinki

I am all for it in terms of diversity and inclusion.

In upsidedown universe where victimhood is a virtue, destroying one's own culture is the highest calling.

Your comment would've been more HNey without the last sentence.

The only interpretation I can see is in support of Great Replacement.

Ooh, this is my first time seeing white nationalism ideology referenced on hacker news.

(And to clarify, I do not remotely support the ideology... Just curious as to what types of people use this site)

I see you've not been here too long. If you want to see a lot more of it, turn on the "showdead" option in your profile that will show you all the comments from people too red in the eyes with mad ideologies to realize they have been shadowbanned.

This thread has the extremes on both sides, get ready for a lot more of it in the next year or two

Strange, I understood it completely differently (that plaguna is happy to read that people from different backgrounds can live together peacefully)

Wait you can be in favor of conspiracy theories? I never even considered that.

Ok then I’m in favor of the Worldwide Jewish Plot

Are you referencing the stabbings or the riot?

Riots. Nothing is known yet about the attack and its motives, but we know the motives for the riots.

Among all the countries in Europe, I expected Ireland to be the last to harbour anti-Muslim, anti-refugee sentiment with all their very vocal support for Palestine.

I expect there is no country in the world with no anti-immigrant sentiment.

The Palestine thing IMO is mostly Irish people identifying with a weak country being bullied by a strong neighbour, which is unsurprising given Ireland's history

Everybody loves an underdog.

Don't assume their vocal support for Palestine is actual support for Palestine.

The Irish are very, very good at PR (and being highly defensive when being criticised). It's the only place I've lived or visited that I've experienced real xenophobia, and homophobic attacks (yet they bang on about legalising gay marriage and opinion polls on the support of it - this is my point exactly).

Also with their housing crisis, the tides have turned, and they're not so pro-immigration/pro-refugee now.

There's five million people in the country. And even though you can say some general things, not all five million always agree.

Plus you can be in favour of self-determination while at the same time being anti-immigration, or discriminating.

Actually, it's the other way around. I don't think anyone has yet declared their motives to riot, but the perp has been identified as Algerian. It's also true that the rioters probably knew this.

> the perp has been identified as Algerian

The BBC says otherwise:

> It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national.

> Sources have indicated to the BBC that the man suspected of carrying out the attack is an Irish citizen in his late 40s who has lived in the country for 20 years.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-67514960

The beeb also says that the guy (a guy?) who intervened is an immigrant from Brazil.

> Brazilian Caio Benicio was riding past the scene in the city centre on Thursday afternoon and stopped to intervene.

> Mr Benicio has been living in the Republic of Ireland for the past year and works as a fast-food courier for Deliveroo.

> Sources have indicated to the BBC that the man suspected of carrying out the attack is an Irish citizen in his late 40s who has lived in the country for 20 years.

Do you really think that's saying otherwise? It's almost a confirmation.

Statements like this pour oil on the fire. "See, you can't trust what the BBC says."

If he has lived in the country for 20 years, and he’s in his late 40s, what does that make him? Don’t strain yourself too hard.

So he is an Algerian immigrant

Source?

Various socials pushed it quite quickly. The more mainstream media are reluctant, but the others print it like there's no tomorrow.

https://www.newsweek.com/ireland-dublin-stabbing-algerian-ma...

https://humanevents.com/2023/11/23/breaking-protests-erupt-i...

Crazy, I hadn't heard that news. At first I was wondering "Dublin Ireland or Dublin Tri-Valley?

Dublin Ireland.

this is a Rorschach test result from the commentor -- not at all related in any literal sense.

The US and Europe are very different in terms of actual immigration in terms of population. The US has immigrants from many different nations and cultures that actually are less stratified. Europe on the other hand has a more homogeneous immigrant population which is the cause for more friction.

All this to say, Europe i headed into a different direction than the US for the reasons stated above.

The US has also had like 120+ years of various waves of mass immigration.

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