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Not specifically related to this latest twist, sorry, but DeepMind’s Geoffrey Irving trusts the board over Altman: https://x.com/geoffreyirving/status/1726754270224023971

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"I have no details of OpenAI's Board’s reasons for firing Sam"

Not the strongest opening line I've seen.

I do have to point out that this is also true of nearly everyone else who’s expressed a strong opinion on the topic, and it didn’t stop any of them …

That's a fair point but there is at the same time a lot of information about how boards are supposed to work and how board members are supposed to act and the evidence that did come out doesn't really make it seem as if it is compatible with that body of knowledge.

The difference is nearly everyone else doesn't stand to seriously benefit from the implosion of OpenAI.

Yeah, I can't imagine why DeepMind would possibly want to see OpenAI incinerated.

When you have such a massive conflict of interest and zero facts to go on - just sit down.

also - "people I respect, in particular Helen Toner and Ilya Sutskever, so I feel compelled to say a few things."

Toner clearly has no real moral authority here, but yes, Ilya absolutely did and I argued that if he wanted to incinerate OpenAI, it was probably his right to, though he should at least just offload everything to MSFT instead.

But as we all know - Ilya did a 180 (surprised the heck out of me).

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