Comment by sleepworkasap | Hacker News Reader

Comment by sleepworkasap | Hacker News Reader

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Charitable take:

Revenge procrastination is, as the article says, a symptom of poor emotional regulation. Our emotions push us towards having leisure/entertainment 24/7 but that is obviously not healthy even for the financially independent. Simultaneously, there is an ever-expanding universe of things to experience/study/engage with so there will always be reasons to feel that your obligations are causing you to miss out on life. So the emotional regulation is about accepting that you won't be able to do everything in life and making conscious decisions and sacrifices about what is important to you.

Uncharitable take:

Any article about revenge procrastination that doesn't include a call to action about legislating massive PTO minimums or a 30-hour workweek is an element of the ongoing class war. Convince labor that their struggles are internal and they'll never organize against you. That there is little political will to expand workers' rights or benefits suggests that capital is in a dominating position in the battlefield of public opinion.

>How to avoid revenge bedtime procrastination

>...

>Think about—and potentially write down—how this behavior harms you.

As always, the truth is somewhere in-between.

This articulates well why the tone of this article irritates me so much.

> Furthermore, revenge bedtime procrastination is also associated with the concept of deliberate procrastination, which in this context occurs when people intentionally delay going to sleep, because they feel that they deserve some time for themselves.

People do deserve time for themselves. To frame that as a feeling that people have rather than a basic need is insulting, like “people feel that they need human contact”, or “people feel that they need regular sleep”.

Sure, spending hours on social media is a luxury (and a waste of time) rather than a human right, but it’s absurd to imply that someone who literally does nothing but work and meet others’ needs has an emotional problem for wanting a pocket of time to use as they choose.

Yup, there has to be something beyond work and parenting (if not, they’ll probably both suffer in the long term).

報復性熬夜 is the Chinese source of this.

A place were 996 is also thrown around a lot. That's 9am to 9pm 6 days a week.

> massive PTO minimums or a 30-hour workweek

and WFH.

i stopped staying up until 3am+ and coming into work dead tired when i started WFH full time.

still didn't cure all my insomnia issues, but stopped the entirely self-inflicted ones.

>Any article about revenge procrastination that doesn't include a call to action about legislating massive PTO minimums or a 30-hour workweek is an element of the ongoing class war. Convince labor that their struggles are internal and they'll never organize against you

Do you think eg. Waren Buffet paid for this article to be written? And do you have any data that show that people who work are more affected by the issue in the article than people who don't (eg. highschoolers?)

Yeah, I'm not for mindless consumption of social media designed to make you addicted, but this article really feels like the medicalization of what would be described before as a slave revolt.

Playfulness isn't even a basic human traits, it's an animal trait, and yet the lack of any consideration in this article on whether the work/life balance might truly be unhealthy and people just need a breather sometimes, this feels truly sociopathic.

It's because they're trying to sell the reader their services. If it's a solvable medical problem then these guys can help, for a fee.

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