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Could we not do this kind of shit here please? Using trans people as the punchline of a joke is offensive and sends the message that we're not welcome here.

You're making me feel like I'm not wanted here, because I like making a joke about trans people. Why is that ok, yet my feelings aren't?

You know perfectly well why.

If I did, do you think I would have made the joke, and then also written that exact statement asking the question.

This is offensive

I do not think it is offensive because you did not say anything negative about that group of people, but I think they find it offensive because when framed like that it exposes some of the absurdity of that act, which could make them question their own self definition.

Human actions often carry absurdity. I think we should recognise it and accept it, instead of trying to ignore it and hope it will disappear (hint, it won't)

Why? I'm just pointing out that there is an adoption rate for anything, even something that you yourself don't want or wouldn't understand.

Because people want the outcome and not the process.

> I joke that you can sell anything eventually if you talk to enough people, because if 0.3% of people want to cut off their own genitals (trans person rate), then you can surely find atleast that rate of people for your __whatever___.

Referring to a sex change as "cutting off their own genitals" is deliberately meant to frame it as absurd or bad compared to more clinical terminology. Your statement is that it is so absurd or bad and yet has some takers ergo any product no matter how bad or undesirable will itself find a market.

This is first of all fundamentally insulting. Second it doesn't make any sense. Those who undertake such surgery aren't choosing between having gender reassignment and a corgi.

Lastly you can't sell shit you don't understand. This is like sales 101.

It's not a "sex change", just cosmetic surgery to mimic the outward appearance of the opposite sex genitals. For males who undergo this, it literally does involve cutting off genitalia - the testicles are excised and disposed of. The penis is inverted to make a pelvic cavity, and the scrotum is reshaped to look somewhat like labia.

The absurd part is, of course, the belief that this surgery turns these men into women, or changes their sex from male to female.

Wrong. I hate certain cars. I'll never understand why anyone would buy a lifted truck with oversize wheels and low profile tires. I think it's an abomination. I can still find a buyer for it and sell it to them.

You understand the utility of trucks, what they're for, what is good and bad about them. You rattled of the elements of a known aesthetic it seems to me that you do in fact understand them even if you don't personally like it.

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