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I'm familiar with the misogyny problem (Andrew Tate etc), but I thought that CSAM was the one thing that got an immediate effective banhammer everywhere on the Internet. If you've got a real CSAM problem with TikTok it might be addressed by taking it to their CDN?

(even on HN, it's hard to get people to focus on the "is it harmful" question for social media rather than the "run by foreigners vs Americans" aspect)

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Maybe CSAM = 12 year olds posting videos of themselves dancing?

The 'abuse' in that scenario being the fact that the parents are ignorant or uninvolved enough to let it happen.

is there some unspoken assumption here? Myself and my friends all have videos of our kids dancing at many ages. None of it is considered csam

If you're posting it publicly then yes it's very likely that it's being redistributed in a pornographic context.

What's next? We should ban all photos of winter forests because arbophiles might get off on them?

Yes, TikTok is very very popular for this. The network of these accounts is then leveraged by "fan accounts" who form hubs for abusers to connect with one another and share links to other platforms, particularly Telegram and Mega.

Reddit is also extremely bad for it. They have a system now where a new subreddit is created every day, discoverable via known keywords, and then used as a directory for links to telegram.

The other thing you'll commonly see on both of these platforms is material being stolen from other social media platforms and then re-hosted to reddit or TikTok with sexualised descriptions. Reddit for example will often say it's fine as long they don't explicitly mention that the images are not of the poster.

> Reddit is also extremely bad for it. They have a system now where a new subreddit is created every day, discoverable via known keywords, and then used as a directory for links to telegram.

Why is Reddit in the equation, because the Telegram channels also get banned ? Cause if not, why not just stick to Telegram

Reddit is used as a directory. It has the advantages in discoverability and being able to automate account creation without needing an email address or phone number.

Run by Americans or run by the intelligence and propaganda arm of a govt that is adversarial to America?

Sure, but .. are there no first Amendment implications at all? What's the minimum US involvement of staff TikTok would require in order to receive first amendment protection?

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