So they should ban instagram too. I have a feeling tiktok is probably more moderated and enforces stricter content rules than instagram. Of course may be tiktok is just more popular and so has the target on it.
You get what you look for on Tiktok.
(even on HN, it's hard to get people to focus on the "is it harmful" question for social media rather than the "run by foreigners vs Americans" aspect)
Reddit is also extremely bad for it. They have a system now where a new subreddit is created every day, discoverable via known keywords, and then used as a directory for links to telegram.
The other thing you'll commonly see on both of these platforms is material being stolen from other social media platforms and then re-hosted to reddit or TikTok with sexualised descriptions. Reddit for example will often say it's fine as long they don't explicitly mention that the images are not of the poster.
Why is Reddit in the equation, because the Telegram channels also get banned ? Cause if not, why not just stick to Telegram
Vigilante CSAM Detective doesn't exactly sit well with me
Are you part of an organization?
From what I've read, if you open tiktok app outside of China, most videos will be about ordinary folks celebrating a very liberal or open way of life, being an anarchist, anti-authoritarian or even a dissident is celebrated.
But if you open tiktok from within China, most videos will be about Chinese patriotism and how that way of life is the best. In this case, anarchism or anti-authoritarian videos are NOT celebrated, they will be likely removed or banned from there.
TikTok is full of anti America propaganda. It rarely gets removed. Anything anti China doesn’t last long.
Instagram has hardly any anti China or anti America propaganda. And it’s certainly not recommended to you within minutes of using the app for the first time.
Opened TikTok in Taiwan and almost immediately got anti America propaganda. Blaming America for covid.
Try and question "America's greatest ally ever" and their policies and see how long you last on these platforms.
When critiquing china, remember that you're essentially looking in the mirror.
People generally don't hold ethnic cleansing in high esteem.
On Instagram on the other side, I've never seen any serious amount of political messages, but they all want to sell me merch, cat-toys and nerd-toys from any point of the spectrum. Likely be because they have more information about me. And these days, TikTok is pretty much like Instagram, all cats and nerds and the occasional call for blood from those plebs who break their spaghetti.
So I don't think it's that any platform is full of this or that, but it very much depends on what the platforms think what might be interesting for you, and the rest you just don't see until it really floods the platform hard.
If Meta happened to be more reactive and cooperating than ByteDance, they won't be bothered.
No other apps were banned after that, nor was there any ban on Chinese smartphones. Trade with China has only increased rapidly since then.
Coincidentally, India is perhaps the only large market where Instagram still dominates
Respectfully, did you read the article? They had more real problems with TikTok's moderation.
> The Nepali government said that they had reached out to TikTok multiple times but the company declined to address their concerns about the content; Narayan Kaji Shrestha, the home minister, suggested a ban on the entire app since scrubbing offending videos individually would be too tricky, the New York Times reported.
Instagram: 2.35B MAUs, tiktok: 1B MAUs (reported by a Chinese company so... probably like half that)
[0]: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S07475...
That isn't a very High IQ statement. Facebook is believed to be responsible for violence in Myanmar and other countries.
Anything with a “feed” of anything other than what you specifically seek out to follow should be constrained at least by persistent warnings like cigarette labels and prevented from being used for advertising (subscription or freemium model).
Advertising should be banned on media that is proven to promote social harm.
MySpace, blogs, newsgroups, IRC were the socially optimal form, even if not the commercially optimal implementation.
Everything else creates ragebait, doomscrolling, self reinforcing insecurity loops, rabbit holing, and other negative social consequences.
If anyone has a counterpoint, I’m actually really interested in other, more positive, models for online social interaction.
Short of whitelisting and pre-approving content I don't see how we can allow this to go on. This is quite frankly destroying peoples brains.
However, after the recent ad-blocker targeting by Youtube I pretty much just stopped watching Youtube entirely. I added my regular subscriptions to the NewPipe app on my phone and just watch what they put out.
The add-on I mentioned above is super useful to personalize my experience with other websites. Particularly online-shopping and other marketplaces that have huge amounts of whitespace for no reason. You'd be surprised how much nicer the web experience is after you add a few "margin: 0px;" css styles to strategic areas.
(Shorts will keep the volume set as whatever you last changed it to in the normal UI, with no way to change it without going to a different ("normal") video.)
Beyond that, part of the Libertarian line of thought is that we have to "let go" and let things fall where they may because we have no moral claim over it. The area of effect we have as individuals is quite small so it makes sense to focus in that direction rather. So that would mean things like family, neighborhood, community, shared culture/religion, and the institutions that build on those.
I myself try to be involved with and sit on the boards of HoAs, to add some sanity and fairness to it. I've also been helping pay for close family friends to go through college. I'm also planning on doing charity work for the groups I feel closest to in my local context (South Africa).
It's like when you reset your tastebuds and the level of sugar and salt in everything becomes physically revolting.
I don't expect a mass enlightenment any time soon though (regardless of legalization/normalization of psychedelics), so we'll need one or two (or three...) "stopgap" solutions before that point. (Just for the next thousand years or so ;)
A somewhat related phenomenon is the desire for someone else to take care of everything. It simplifies the infinite chaos and complexity of life. To some degree this is necessary to maintain sanity, but if this is the "default" approach, except for a small percentage of people who seek power due to genetic hardwiring... well then you end up with what we have now. In this case, the solution is also maturation (though in this case, emotional rather than... whatever you want to call consciousness being aware of itself), and also not expected to "arrive" within the next few centuries.
I wish I had some more practical suggestions, but I at least hope that pointing out the root causes (as I see them) may lead someone else to helpful ideas.
On the other hand, if anyone wants to try making advertisement contracts unenforceable (illegal, essentially), I'll be the first in line.
(and of course how unworkable it would be to have the censor board be several percent of the population so they could keep up with the posting rate)
Perhaps it costs real money to submit each video to these platforms as a means to offset the moderation and rating efforts. Similar to what others have suggested to reduce spam emails.
Off the top of my head, requiring money to post videos to these platforms would immediately reduce the sheer huge volume of spam and automated/auto-generated videos. It would also reduce spam from LCOL regions that weaponize their low-value of time in order to game the system.
Not only that, but it would solve identity and age verification (as it'd require a credit card).
Easy to scale up nannying to infinite proportions with AGI. (We don't have that yet, but it may arrive very soon. Well, we have a shitty approximation right now, but AI != AGI.)
On the other hand, that (coupled with the NSA thing) also makes the "my FBI agent" meme come true. One Federal Agent Per Child.
A great start!
for now. Unpopular opinion, social network should be regulated like casinos.
I wish the EU commission had the guts to push for something like this for all dopamine-kick and scroll-based apps
This design should be regulated the same way slot machines are.
I downvote them for their potentially misinformative nature, which can lead to delusion and disharmony.
You pretty much only see instagram content when you visit a specific person’s page and that’s all you will ever see.
Variable rewards, instantaneous short-form tailored content, fear of missing out. It's carefully built for continuous user engagement.
Algo recs and reels nearly killed IG for me. It desperately tries to become TikTok but that's not why I signed up for IG (which was photos). Photos still exist, but even if you like every photo and "dislike" every reel for months it will still push 99% reel content in your feed--whatever ML they use has been near totally useless.
That is literally their default mode. They had to introduce a "For You" feed (hidden behind a tap on Instagram logo) to go around EU regulations.
Instagram's default feed is an abomination. For me it shows two posts from people I follow, and then an endless stream of ads and "suggested" content.
Thankfully I don't engage with Instagram much, and a few years back I muted/unfollowed a bunch of people, so the algorithmic feed is mostly okay: dogs, cats, climbing. But most of it is recycled regurgitated aggregator accounts