That’s not the industry’s prime objective, it just happens to be who it was accessible to early on.
If anything, the industry should focus on being more well rounded and less focused on being nerds.
That’s not the industry’s prime objective, it just happens to be who it was accessible to early on.
If anything, the industry should focus on being more well rounded and less focused on being nerds.
There an unhealthy obsession with technology for the sake of technology...but no one care. Not a single user is going to say, "I love React" or "Why didn't they use Vue?"
A great technical solution to the wrong problem is no solution at all. Clients and users want their problems solved.
The way I read keyle's point is that computing is also a home for many sentient humans who feel awkward in meat space but whose creativity blossoms in regimented systems of abstract logic and in electronic workshops capable of infinitesimally cheap symbolic manipulation and storage. Computing is good for society, and it's also a therapy / practice / haven for a percentage of fringe humans.
People like that really need to work on fixing it. It can obviously be crippling to their career and lives.
Which is the point that the comment I originally replied to was making. "Let's keep tech for just the nerds, as it should be."
Stop trying to put words in my mouth to bolster your point, or virtue signal, or whatever your motivations are. I never said they were broken. It's an important skill that needs to be worked on and improved, just like any other life skill.
Why would there be awkward weirdos if they needed to work on not being awkward weirdos?.
The can choose to work on it, but they can also choose not to, by say trying to isolate themselves in an industry where they think they can minimize human interaction.
There might be consequences of their choice though. Their personal life might suffer or they might get fired from their cushy job if people don't like working with them. Those things might push them to make a choice to work on their issues or they might not.
I think society should create incentives that reward well-rounded people (and to an extent it already does). And I think it's important to realize that people need to do almost nothing.
>There might be consequences of their choice though. Their personal life might suffer or they might get fired from their cushy job if people don't like working with them.
This is why they need to work on it. Unemployed and ostracized from the industry with no network to fall back on doesn't usually end well.
>Why would there be awkward weirdos if they needed to work on not being awkward weirdos?
People can be an awkward weirdos all they want, but they need to know how to turn on some facade they and other people are comfortable with when necessary.
People have agency and they can choose to fuck themselves over as hard as they want. Either actively by drinking themselves to death or cheating on their spouse (for example) or passively by choosing to be an anti-social weirdo nobody likes who works with computers.
Nobody needs to not cheat on their spouse. But they can choose to not do it.
> Unemployed and ostracized from the industry with no network to fall back on doesn't usually end well.
This is true, but it’s their life not yours. You can tell someone what they need to do all you want. Good luck with that btw.
Get over the idea that anyone needs to do anything.
Instead realize that people can choose to do whatever they’re motivated to do. And a lot of people are motivated to be miserable. And they’re not going to do anything about it. They certainly don’t need to.
They need to work on it or their life will most likely suck. That better? I feel that was implied in my original statement:
>People like that really need to work on fixing it. It can obviously be crippling to their career and lives.
I don’t accept that.
I knew a surgeon.
He truly loved cutting people open.
If you went to see him you were getting cut open. He’d find a reason.
Is he a better surgeon than the one across the hall who’d refer you to somebody else if there was a decent chance non-surgical intervention would help?
Don’t show me the person who loves code quality. Show me the person who likes helping people use technology.