China is very anti-Israel, the government has condemned Israel and called for a two-state solution. And the online discourse there is extremely anti-Semitic, the Chinese version of Twitter (Weibo) is basically Gab.
https://www.voanews.com/amp/antisemitic-comments-flood-china...
>"It's really the fault of Little Mustache," wrote a netizen. "If he had burned all of them (Jews), we wouldn't have this much trouble."
Nobody on the left or right in the west is that anti-Semitic, at least not publicly.
So what I was wanting to say was that gab is not the best comparison specifically now specifically for antisemitism. Mainstream twitter is
except for the neo-nazis..
Jews in the west are afraid to go to universities. Stars of david were drawn on many houses in France. In a Palestinian demonstration where they called for a Palestinian state from river to sea (elimination of Israel), the only arrested person is a Jewish woman who confronted them.
I don't rush to call people antisemitic, I think most of them are just "useful idiots" for the Hamas/Iran propaganda. But there are also some people who are letting old prejudice rise and using this as an opportunity. This isn't mainstream but that's how these things start...
It's a strange motte-and-bailey, where media outlets are factual ("here are a few tweets"), but are always interpreted in irrational ways ("XYZ group has a big problem with ABC"), since average people are known to falsely generalize based on anecdotes. I'll take such articles seriously when they start presenting quantified empirical data. I'll be waiting a while.
I'm curious what you're defining as antisemitic here. I've seen a lot of claims that being anti-Israeli-government is equivalent to antisemitism, but this is objectively not the case.
Since october 7th there I have observed (probably because a lot of people I follow on twitter are jewish, so they kinda amplify the nasty content) serious rise in "gas the jews" types of antisemithism on twitter.
Some of it edgelording of course, but a lot of the content there has serious bite.
I wonder how much that contributes to the viralness(virality?) of some of this hate speech? It's definitely not healthy and a good reason to get off social media.
Right now the main claim is about the university letters that claimed the fault of October 7th terrorist attacks are 100% due to Israel. This is dumb and devoid of factual basis. Also members of the squad said pretty ignorant things about the war.
It's a mistake even Jews make because of basic misunderstanding of the situation. E.g. the grand central demonstration.
This is all based on some correct notion: Israel has been terrible to the Palestinians. That's a fact that the Liberals are 100% correct about. There should be a Palestinian state and settlements should be removed...
But today in New York they had a demonstration which called for the formation of a Palestinian state from sea to river. That effectively means wiping out Israel.
That is the explicit charter of the Hamas. That is why it sabotaged the Oslo accord and stopped peace. Liberals are always against war, but in this case it's a war against a jihadi organization that has done everything to stop peace and a Palestinian state. Some violence is necessary to stop them.
They are also very media savvy and manipulate liberal sentiment with difficult pictures. I saw the Circus the other week. A young liberal was confronting Kamala Harris and said horrible things about Israel. He blamed Israel for the Hospital bombing and made pretty horrendous false claims. This is all false, but by the time it was proven false people don't notice it and move to the next piece of propaganda from the Hamas.
There's a liberal desire to help the weak, I'm a liberal and have that same desire. As a
Quoting in hopes that you read your own words and think about them a bit longer.
That's just completely false. China and Israel has always had a decently warm relationship, so much so Israel was selling weapons to China until the U.S. forced them to stop: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Israel_relations...
The Israel-Palestine conflict is one place where they have disagreement, but overall the two countries are on friendly terms.
And you do know Voice of America is an U.S. government funded propaganda outlet right?
They would very much like to see Israel knocked down a peg as Israel serves as a demo of the US army capabilities.
China is very much anti-Muslim because Islamists pose a threat to its absolute power and its projected illusion of unity.
China is also anti-Israel because Israel is a close ally of the US and majority Muslim countries normalising relationships with Israel aligns them closer with the US.
Also, the non-Chinese version of Weibo (Twitter, or X) is also basically Gab at this point and flooded with antisemitic and anti-Israel (but also anti-Palestinian and anti-Muslim) posts. The owner has even shared antisemitic accounts and posts himself. That doesn't seem to be a good yardstick for anything.
A muslim is not an islamist [1], your simplification is concerning, China officially recognize Islam [2], and Uyghurs weren't subject to the 1 child policy
Stick to the facts please
[1] - https://humanists.international/blog/the-difference-between-...
[2] - https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-report-on-international-r....
It is far worse than the one child policy. Many were subjected to sterilization and involuntary birth control.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide
https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-international-news-we...
Your narrative is full of contradiction
https://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-china-saudi-arabia-...
https://apnews.com/article/syria-ap-top-news-riots-internati...
Now that the security crackdown has eased, journalists have changed their tone, or perhaps strategy ;)
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-lifestyle-ch...
None of your links refute anything to do with sterilization and forced contraception, despite the numerous reports, research, and overwhelming conclusion of their validity. Your links do describe bulldozing mosques, putting Uyghars in campus, and moving in ethic Chinese Hans. Stalin did a similar thing (forcibly relocating Tartars and replacing them with Russians) when trying to eliminate the Crimean Tartars.
> Now that the security crackdown has eased, journalists have changed their tone, or perhaps strategy ;)
Those links paint a picture of a brutal (and vile) crackdown. "Joking" about a supposed cross continental conspiracy between various researchers and new agencies is pretty dark. I don't think we have anything more to discuss.
Terrorism is bad and should be fought no matter what, we seen what happens when you are not pro-active (Hamas and its deadly attack in Israel)
I wish MI6 cared as much about the Palestinians as they do about the Uyghurs ;)
I'm not saying anything negative about Islam here. If there were a similar international network of political Christians, China would likely be very concerned about Christian minorities as well, but as it is, Islamists pose the most direct risk of promoting separatist sentiments and this makes Muslims suspect, whether their religion is officially tolerated or not.
Heck, Tibet is another obvious example with separatist sentiments being directly tied to the religious/spiritual structure of the region and its opposition to the absolute claims to power of the central government. It's just a consequence of trying to project a monolithic structure for a territory this vast with this many ethnic groups and cultures within. Probably the weirdest and most impractical manifestation of this is in the single Chinese timezone.
It's more like a handful of privileged countries behaving as if they own the world, and their client states (who the first have no problem if they're theocratic or dictatorships or brutal far right as long as they are their allies), against the developing world and any country with claims to sovereignity.
I do not thing there is something wrong. That is why I asked because this 'colonial' narrative seems often too vague. It is often just 'the west'.
Sounds more like great power rivalry.
Then again, Russia would definitely benefit from the conflict if it heats up further.
In fact, still tries in the face of accusations that are flying around.
I love this kind of rhetoric, it implies we in the west are the democratic ones and dehumanizes the "enemy". The same wording has also been used to condone carpet bombing civilians the last weeks. "It's up to the democratic world".
I don't think we are that much better, our leaders are just better at hiding their bullshit. But people willingly fall for the myth that we are somehow the "good guys".
The way you put it's X, Y, Z and friends against us is also interesting. Have you considered it might be the other way around? Hasn't basically every president waited for a reason to fight the last boss in the middle east? We're very hungry for war in the west, don't fool yourself we're any better than the rest.
We're not content with what we have, we will keep destabilizing the world until we own it all. The day every so-called leader answers to the US that's when we have world peace.
All of the stans seem to get quite well with China, they are buddies with Iran and the Gulf and they make major investments in the green crescent in africa. They also get well with Malaysia.
That is quite pro muslim. The only muslims they have problems with are the one inside their borders. So less than 1% of the total muslims in the world.
That's very much not pro-muslim, then.
A lot of countries use the Israel-Palestinian issue as a distraction from their own abuses of their Muslim populations.
Also, it could easily be just opting to not display any disputed borders, which Israel has multiple of (Gaza, West Bank, Golan).
Aren't the majority of China's maritime borders disputed?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_of_the_Pe...
They seem to have disputes with about half of the countries on their borders (land and maritime). That's a fair few. :/