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As other commenters said, Windows 10 will continue to work even without updates, but also, if you insist that your OS receives updates, you can bypass the TPM requirement for Windows 11 because it isn't a technical one. It doesn't rely on the TPM for any critical functionality. This "requirement" is entirely fake.

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It’s not just about ‘can you run Win11’, it’s whether it’s actually a decent replacement for 10.

Is the Win11 user experience any better yet? Can I clear all junk from the taskbar and start menu without Explorer patching tools?

I skipped Win8 entirely, going from 7 to 10, and was hoping 11 would be another ‘skippable bad release’ followed by a more appealing Win12

->Is the Win11 user experience any better yet?

No. The wife accidentally clicked on some dark pattern that updated her laptop to 11. It lasted just over a day before she got me to roll it back to 10. Horrific.

> Is the Win11 user experience any better yet?

If you're asking me, the last sane version of Windows was 7. It's all downhill after it.

As I am on record for saying: Win 7 was 'Peak Windows'.

I was able to skip Vista by going strait from xp to 7. I fear I won't be able to skip 11, and I worry about that. Linux has been so close to being a daily driver for years now, but the polish is just not there to be a computer I use when I don't want to constantly troubleshoot.

sileh sigh

In the latest win 11 update the never combine and labels on taksbar where bring back https://youtu.be/GPxiPRHQ2Tg

In 2 more years, they'll bring back the ability to move the taskbar to any of the four edges of the screen!

IIRC upgrade-in-place won't work without TPM hardware, but fresh installs work. (I was able to do that on an older Surface that nominally wasn't Win-11 compatible).

Unless their data is all cloud or roaming profile or whatever, fresh install isn't an option for most users, ie non-enterprise. Backup, upgrade, restore is a pain for every upgrade or patch. Another reason to get off Windows and be done with it.

I guess local computer repair shops will offer that service.

I have a sinking feeling by the time Windows 10 support ends Microsoft will begin rolling out more and more "functionality" which requires it (both first and third party). It'd be kind of pointless to force now when you can just run Windows 10 and bypass it.

OTOH who knows, maybe they just want to be able to say BYOD will always be able to comply with your corporate requirements for bitlocker or something

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