Large Balloon Reflector: a potentially game-changing antenna design
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IIRC, the scheme, for creating a large space telescope in situ, went something like this: 1) create a flat film of some uncured polymer resin, polymer solution or heat-softened plastic on a large ring; 2) inflate it into a hemispherical dome by applying moderate gas pressure on one side; 3) allow the material to harden; 4) release the pressure, which will cause the bubble to adopt a parabolic shape; 5) use ion beam deposition to apply a reflective surface. I can't say whether my recollection of the geometrical claim on which this proposal is based is accurate, or, if so, whether it is correct.
Most of Jones's proposals were wildly yet entertainingly infeasible, but not always, and he is somewhat well known for conceiving of a form of 3-D printing (using a laser-polymerized monomer) before any serious proposals for the concept. There are a couple of collections of his Daedalus columns.
https://gizmodo.com/upcoming-cubesat-feature-inflatable-beac...
The military has used them for years on the ground, evidently this is also a nasa spinoff:
https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2010/ps_5.html
I see the used ones for sale at ham radio flea markets sometimes.
NASA, for decades: Launching antennae into space is a difficult, costly procedure that requires billions of dollars.
Also NASA: Hey, what if we just...made the inside of one side of a clear balloon shiny??
Given the other comment about this below (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38044638), I'm surprised this hasn't been done sooner though, I wonder if there's some missing downside?
Top concers I would have is working lifetime, stability, and percision.
You don't want a dish that is continually changing shape. Gas and materials shrink and expand as temperature changes. The balloon will also leak.
Overall the temperature of the balloon will stay pretty constant if it stays on a fixed orbit around the sun.
The argument about precision I don't understand - the article talks about creating telescopes with this concept but NASA wants to use this for radio communication - the comparison with JWST doesn't apply, as it's mirrors had to be manufactured to a much higher tolerance.
> lifetime
I mean we had bigelow Aerospace with their module and it seems to be pretty durable. [0]
[0] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigelow_Expandable_Activity_Mo...
OK, so you just ruled out 99% of use cases. The world only has a handful of satellites in heliocentric orbits.
NASA temperature conditions for flight hardware is as follows: LEO -65 ºC to +125 ºC, with 6,000 cycles/yr depending on orbit height. GEO is -196 ºC to +128 °C, with 90 cycles/yr.
That is some serious Thermal stress. Never mind the fact that it is also being blasted with UV radiation.
This sounds like a problem that is easily solved by simply adding another, bigger balloon that sits between it and the sun.
Yes, of course. I was wondering if there are materials that once cooled down would harden but then remain as such also when temperature rises again. Assuming it's doable, it would likely suffer from dilation and contraction anyway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_optics
Decent ground-based telecopes have to constantly change shape anyway. Perhaps it would in fact be easier to manage with a balloon.
JWST also unfolded from panels, so presumably has a way to calibrate itself.
The US solved this problem in the early Cold War for passive balloon communications satellites by putting a chunk of solid volatile material inside the balloon, so sublimation kept a constant internal gas pressure. I suppose you'd stick a cheap servo on a door to control the sublimation rate if you need a precise mirror.
Besides, so long as you've already got the expensive sensors, navigation, propulsion etc. up there, why not just keep chucking up backpacks crammed full of new balloon modules for when your old one pops?
But if you're just talking about the sublimator, why wouldn't it last however long you want it to, depending on how much sublimator you put in it? Plastic's pretty airtight even if it's not perfect, and it's not like you need a ton of pressure to hold shape in a zero-g vacuum.
Edit0: Nope! Part of the sphere is transparent, and the inside is reflective. Nothing collapsed.
And it's working very similarily to a normal parabolic antennae, but being inflatable it's way lighter/smaller, leaving more weight and room for power and instruments. Massive win!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Echo
Remastered documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19kAuAVAnDc
Scott Manley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19kAuAVAnDc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflatable_Antenna_Experiment
Except the surface of a beachball is spherical, not parabolic. A parabolic surface is not closed, so you can't inflate it like a beachball.
So I'd like to know either: how they control the shape of the surface, so the mirrored portion is parabolic; or whether the antenna surface is actually spherical, and not parabolic at all.
The portion of a parabolic mirror nearest the focus approximates to a sphere. If the deviation is less than 1/4 wavelength of the signal of interest, a spherical mirror will focus the signal perfectly, as if it were a paraboloid.
A paraboloid is what you need for distortion-free imaging; this antenna is apparently used only for signalling, so perhaps accuracy doesn't matter, because only the gain is important. But this is a NASA publication, so I wouldn't expect them to say it's parabolic if it's really spherical.
> The concept turns part of the inside surface of an inflated sphere into a parabolic antenna. A section comprising about a third of the balloon’s interior surface is aluminized, giving it reflective properties.
The balloon is approximately spherical but probably not exactly (actually, when looking closely, hardly any beachballs are spherical either). What is parabolic is the part of the balloon which is aluminized.
Edit: fixed a typo
Beach balls might not be spherical, but my bet would be on ovoid rather than parabolic.
Yeah, I wondered about that. I guess a birthday balloon is a pretty complicated curve; but I doubt it comes closer to a paraboloid than it does to a sphere or a plane, anywhere on its surface.
But this thing isn't a telescope, it doesn't have to focus an image; it doesn't need to be a parabola, a sphere is fine for achieving highly-directional gain.
I'm not up to date on telescope design (by at least 40 years), but the Cassegrain design used a spherical mirror, I think. It was used for wide-field astrophotography, and (again, I think) it has a curved focal field, so it needs a curved sensor.
I'm certain that Cassegrain designs have been obsoleted. I'm just bragging about what an anachronism I am.
[Edit] The Cassegrain design also requires a refracting lens in front of the mirror; and the lens is a peculiar shape.
[Edit again] I may be thinking of a Schmitt. I've never played with anything more interesting than a Newtonian; I was just an amateur stargazer. All these fancy designs were made for professional astronomers. For me, they were strictly theoretical.
Excerpt:
> FreeFall’s antenna technology is unique because it is using a spherical reflector. In the past, antennas always used a parabolic antenna. A parabolic antenna focuses energy to a “single point” – while a spherical antenna focuses energy to a “focal line”. Parabolic antennas are symmetric about only one axis which severely limits field of view. It also requires precise pointing for high gain and has more complex packaging, deployment and on-orbit operations. The spherical antenna provides a wider field of view for antennas and high gain without re-pointing of an antenna. Combining a spherical antennas with inflatables is the key to achieving a large aperture in a simple lightweight system.
I can easily buy that it could be cheaper to launch a 50m spherical inflatable antenna than a rigid 25m parabolic antenna. But it's never going to be true that a spherical antenna with the same gain as a parabolic will have a wider beam width.
I’ve heard a trade off with these is they aren’t very ridged so in windy conditions they don’t work that great. Maybe that is less of a problem in outer scpace.
https://www.cubic.com/inflatable-satellite-antenna https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2010/ps_5.html
You could have an emergency antenna on life rafts that suddenly inflates to a full size beacon.
Better pictures here https://www.freefallaerospace.com/nasa-balloon/
tape it over garbage can
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profit
> Some 30 years ago, a young engineer named Christopher Walker was home in the evening making chocolate pudding when he got what turned out to be a very serendipitous call from his mother.
> Taking the call, he shut off the stove and stretched plastic wrap over the pot to keep the pudding fresh. By the time he returned, the cooling air in the pot had drawn the wrap into a concave shape, and in that warped plastic, he saw something – the magnified reflection of an overhead lightbulb – that gave him an idea that could revolutionize space-based sensing and communications.
I love genesis stories like this. Reminds me of Feynman's plate: https://demonstrations.wolfram.com/FeynmansWobblingPlate/
https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/infrastructure...
https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist.php...
Even at large volumes, you get a ton of surface area for the mass, as well as a good spherical or parabolic shape for reflectors.
The particular mini-satellite is slated for a 6-month mission, so presumably they think it'll survive at least that long.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflatable_Antenna_Experimen...
https://www.militaryaerospace.com/rf-analog/article/16715763...
I wonder if you could create a ground antenna as well, with a pair of these -- one acting as receiver and the other as transmitter, at a very high altitude, pointed at two different locations on the ground.
That would give you a very high gain antenna for two fixed points which might obviate the need for e.g. expensive undersea cable link.
Durability might be a concern but there's a lot of prior art in marine applications to observe.
>"Now, with an assist from NASA’s Innovative Advanced Concepts (NIAC) program, funded by the agency’s Space Technology Mission Directorate, which supports visionary innovations from diverse sources, Walker’s decades-old vision is coming to fruition."
Didn't know about NIAC before reading this. It sounds like a great group of people!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_Institute_for_Advanced_Co...
Using a huge balloon to make the shape and then covering it in a material in space could be an idea. Get the ISS crew to build a mega telescope in orbit.
It doesn't seem like an even slightly crazy idea to me.