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>No, Edge is not "objectively" better.

Which benchmarks have you looked at to make this contradiction? It definetly is objectively better on Windows if you look at benchmarks on speed, memory usage and battery life, which is what most average users care about in a browers, and the reason why most switched from IE to Chrome originally.

Your average user has no idea nor do they care about the whole online privacy implications of a browser or any other SW product or service, otherwise they would have never touched Chrome, the product of an ad company, in the first place.

>By this logic all agency can be taken from people and they should be forced to use products deemed "objectively better".

You're drawing some really silly straw-men here for you to fight.

>if MSFT doesn't know how to build a brand and ecosystem, clearly lots of execs need to step down.

Agreed, but when was the last time you saw a big corp perform mass layoffs of execs?

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I use real life, not benchmarks.

> Your average user has no idea nor do they care about the whole online privacy implications of a browser or any other SW product or service, otherwise they would have never touched Chrome, the product of an ad company, in the first place.

When the Russians had to choose between 2 "dictators" (the word seems to have lost its original meaning), they chose the one who spoke their language. Same is the situation with Chrome vs Edge. Where do you want to give your data ? To Microsoft or to Google ?

So I just Googled "2023 browser benchmarks" and aside from one result that went Firefox, Edge, ..., Chrome, every single one I've read has been "1. Chrome 2. Edge ..."

Obviously Google could be biasing the results so I asked ChatGPT with Bing and got:

1. Google Chrome 2. Microsoft Edge

Did you also check battery life and memory usage? That's more noticeable than a website loading 1% faster in Chrome. Sure, now Chrome can also sleep inactive tabs now to save memory, but that's relative recent feature, while Edge had this for over 2 years.

You made a very strong claim of Edge being objectively better. When I pointed Edge privacy issue you narrowed objectivity to 3 metrics of your choice. When another commenter said Edge is better in one of those, you stick with the remaining 2. Edge might be better at some things sure, but then we are very far off from Edge being "objectively" better, otherwise every MSFT product will be "objectively" better than competition since one can always chose 2 random metrics that favour one product over other.

Metrics weren't random but exactly those metrics that mattered for the users switching from IE to Chrome: speed, ram usage, battery usage.

Here's the first results on Google from a review on October 2023:

"Edge performs similar to Chrome in benchmarks, but has markedly lower RAM usage when you open some tabs. We're declaring Edge the winner in performance, which is quite a turnaround for Microsoft, the company that made Internet Explorer."

Source: https://www.androidauthority.com/chrome-vs-edge-3298624/

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