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Funfact: San Franscisco has a public transport system in the area where the driverless cars are operating.

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It took how many years just to add one new line?

How many years to implement self driving cars?

But really I think they’re the future of the city.

That's because it's a hard problem, not because of local government.

I think the point of the comment was: is this even a problem that needs to be solved because we already have a perfectly good solution, it's just that nobody (for REASONS) wants to implement the solution. So, some company has to solve a "hard problem."

A perfect "this is why we can't have nice things."

Not everyone agrees that public transport and rebuilding cities around them is a good idea. That’s what you people who are obsessed with trains and busses don’t get. Self driving cars are still cars, and cars come with a freedom public transportation can’t match. It’s more likely that self driving cars become public transportation than we enact the fantasy that the US changes it’s entire cultural mindset to hate individual choice.

I for one don’t want to ride a bus, every time I’ve been on one there’s been some drugged out maniac sketching everyone out. They’re also usually gross like public bathrooms and building more, forcing everyone to use them, isn’t going away to change that.

> every time I’ve been on one there’s been some drugged out maniac sketching everyone out.

I'd never been on a bus until I moved out of the US, and I've never run into that problem.

> you people who are obsessed with trains and busses

I'm not obsessed, I grew up in the US. I drove a car every day since I was 16.5 years old, well into my 30s. I also drove fuel trucks, tractors, boats, and so much more during my life in the US. It wasn't until I moved out of the US that I saw a different way of living. Does it have issues? Yep. Does it mean I can live without a car payment, insurance, and maintenance costs? Hell yeah, and that is a lot of money.

Do I miss having a car? Yes! I actually do. However, when I need one, I can usually rent an electric BMW one for a few hours for ~50 USD an hour, or ~100 for a day. But realistically, on average, I only need a car for a day, every few months.

I believe you are talking about Van Ness BRT. A couple of decades and hundreds of millions of dollars to build a two mile bus lane.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Ness_Bus_Rapid_Transit

That also applies. But I was thinking of the Chinatown line that connects with Fourth and King.

LOL.

It's like that cartoon with the swing. "I just wanted someone to paint a line on the road"

https://fisher.osu.edu/blogs/gradlife/2011/11/16/a-simple-sw...

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